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Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I understand on 28/08/1863 Ralph STURGES was published as a Deserter from 06/08/1863 at Woolwich.

Is anyone able to confirm what happened to the gentleman please?

Thank you,

BAC3


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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 September 20 18:31 BST (UK) »
According to 1851 census Ralph's father, John, was a cordwainer.
In 1881 there is a Richard Sturges, age 36, shoemaker, born Derbyshire, a convict in Portland prison.
Could be entirely coincidental.

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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 September 20 20:36 BST (UK) »
No, you are correct.......Ralph STURGES became a "career criminal"......but the deserter aspect, particularly if there was a Court Martial, intrigues me, if appropriate


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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 September 20 21:32 BST (UK) »
1861 - Richard Sturges aged 15 - father John occ cordwainer. Somewhat of a coincidence!,
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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 September 20 00:08 BST (UK) »

He was obviously caught and sent back to duty but deserted again (Woolwich) on 3 February 1864, published in the Police Gazette on the 14 Feb 1864

Those records are held exclusively by Fold.com, and don't appear in the Police Gazettes that are online unfortunately.

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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 September 20 07:52 BST (UK) »
You probably have this:-
GRO Index. Ralph Sturgess. Mar Q 1846. Burton on Trent. Mmn Hammond.
Baptism. 18 January 1846. Tutbury. Staffs. Parents John and Mary Ann.

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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 September 20 08:30 BST (UK) »
There are various criminal records for Richard Sturgess alias Ralph Sturge(s) - you probably have some or all of these already.
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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 September 20 09:04 BST (UK) »
Several mentions of him to be found on British Newspapers Archives.One of particular interest(but may not be your man).

Birmingham Daily Post.29 April 1861. " a youth, Ralph Sturges, alias Tourne" charged with stealing a timepiece.

In 1866 Ralph Sturgess, 21, a shoemaker, charged with stealing a watch.

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Re: Ralph STURGES, Born 1845, Derby
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 September 20 09:12 BST (UK) »
An alternative source for one of those Police Gazette items:

https://www.lastchancetoread.com/docs/1863-08-26-the-police-gazette.aspx
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