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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #27 on: Friday 02 October 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
Following on from that, that would probably mean obtaining this cert:-

Births Mar 1919

Thomson    Robert C C    Harvey    Devonport    5b   377

which the GRO doesn't list.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #28 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:11 BST (UK) »
A Ruby Harvey married a George Thomson in Devonport district in 1910, couldn't the 1919 child be theirs?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #29 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:19 BST (UK) »
Looking on Free BMD the only two births which have the child's surname the same as the mothers maiden name in March 1/4 1919 are -  (Robert Cecil's mother being unmarried when he was born.)

(Robert C S Cock born in Dover - he appears on the 1939 Register - so not him.)

Robert C Styles born in Abergavenny 11a 80 - I can't find him on the 1939 Register and I can't find any marriage or a death of a Robert C Styles in Abergavenny area.  (of course he may have moved!)

Would be worth trying to find what the 'C' in Robert Styles name stands for.
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #30 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:21 BST (UK) »
From the GRO

STYLES, ROBERT  CHARLES     - 
GRO Reference: 1919  M Quarter in ABERGAVENNY  Volume 11A  Page 80  Occasional Copy: A
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #31 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:24 BST (UK) »
Robert C Styles - 1919 = Robert Charles - GRO

Robert C S Cock - 1919 = Robert Charles Sutton - GRO
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #32 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:32 BST (UK) »
Robert Charles Sutton Cock / Cox
Already mentioned in  Reply #1
And eliminated in  Reply #19

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #33 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:39 BST (UK) »
Looking on Free BMD the only two births which have the child's surname the same as the mothers maiden name in March 1/4 1919 are -  (Robert Cecil's mother being unmarried when he was born.)

(Robert C S Cock born in Dover - he appears on the 1939 Register - so not him.)

Robert C Styles born in Abergavenny 11a 80 - I can't find him on the 1939 Register and I can't find any marriage or a death of a Robert C Styles in Abergavenny area.  (of course he may have moved!)

Would be worth trying to find what the 'C' in Robert Styles name stands for.
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Presumably this is based on the assumption that the child was registered with the Christian name Robert? But itís been pointed out that itís entirely possible his birth was registered under another name and that he was given the name Robert by his adoptive parents, Ernest and Eleanor.

Perhaps her family took on Robert jnr.

But the OP has stated that the child was adopted by Ernest and Eleanor Cox  :-\

It would useful to have some more input from dibdab (Debbie) on this.
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #34 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:41 BST (UK) »
Alternative to being Robert Cecil on birth reg, having no name?
March 1919 Alverstoke 2b 732
Backhouse    Male
mother Backhouse   

New GRO birth index has the dash for mother's maiden surname.
Don't think there is a death reg for the child at the same time, or just after.

However, I would have thought it is unlikely to be connected to this matter of RC Cox.

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #35 on: Friday 02 October 20 10:52 BST (UK) »


"..he always knew he had been adopted but was never told who his real mother was"

Who told him that his father was Robert Cecil COX, brother of Ernest?

Surely his adopted family would not let him know that they know his mother's name...but we won't tell you.  If they were not prepared to name her you might expect them to say that (known) mother had...what....died.

The man in the photo looks older than a 24 year old Robert. The woman does not have an engagement ring.....not sure how engagement rings were used in early 20th century.

You might think Robert would name the fiance as NOK.....make out a Will in her favour.

I think that the back view of the photo would be useful to see.