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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 October 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
Found an even older sister Ethel, she married Albert Edward Bucksey (with an "e") in 1909
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 October 20 14:30 BST (UK) »
When Ernest married Eleanor Wilding on 15 June 1918 his address was 77 Village Road so not far away from Ethel. The marriage took place in St John the Evangelist Westminster.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 October 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
His military papers give next of kin as his mother Susan Cox of 77 Village Road Alverstoke.

It's possible, I suppose that the child was born in the Gosport area, then taken by Ernest and Eleanor to Plymouth.

I am still interested to see what dibdab says with reference to Robert's baptism indicating that he was born in Plymouth?
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 October 20 14:47 BST (UK) »
His mother's death was registered Q2 1918, so she would have been NOK when he joined up, but after her death he would have had to choose someone else. He had a number of siblings. Would he have liked to choose the fiancee but couldn't because they were not married. Did he choose Ethel because she lived near the fiancee and could get word to her more easily if anything happened? Was she also a resident of Village road?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 October 20 15:03 BST (UK) »
Looks his father was included as NOK as he was still alive in 1908 when Robert joined up but he has been crossed out leaving mother Susan(nah). looks like 77 village rd added at same time.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 October 20 15:25 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

What evidence do you have that his birth was registered as Robert Cecil ......     

If he was informally adopted by his paternal relations soon after his birth it would be understandable if they named him after his father but his mother may have given him other names when she registered his birth.
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 October 20 15:52 BST (UK) »
can't understand where Plymouth comes in. Ernest Cox was in the navy. His records are in two parts on FindMyPast. I can't see that he's in Plymouth between March 1918 and his discharge in 1922. Seems to move around a bit, but mainly Portsmouth area
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 01 October 20 15:59 BST (UK) »
can't understand where Plymouth comes in. Ernest Cox was in the navy. His records are in two parts on FindMyPast. I can't see that he's in Plymouth between March 1918 and his discharge in 1922. Seems to move around a bit, but mainly Portsmouth area

Dibdab has said that Robert Cecil junior was baptised and brought up in Plymouth. There was no suggestion in the original posting that Robert senior lived there.
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 October 20 16:11 BST (UK) »
I know the OP said he was brought up by his uncle Ernest and his wife in Plymouth. But uncle Ernest's military record has him elsewhere and moving several times before discharge in 1922. Aunt Eleanor was from London, so again I can't see a Plymouth connection. The naval records have the same dob as on 1939 register, so I'm sure they are the right ones.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate