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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:00 BST (UK) »
What a lovely photo I do hope you discover the lady.s isentity.
Have any of the descendants considered doing DNA ..?
It could throw up a distant mkutual ancestor with a family name to investigate ...good luck .
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 01 October 20 19:07 BST (UK) »
Robert C S Cock, mothers maiden name Cock.   Dover 2a 1464. Checking this further I discovered the full name was Robert Charles Sutton Cock.

That one died in 1999?
COX, ROBERT  CHARLES SUTTON    
Year of Birth: 1919 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/1999 in Waveney  (7531A)  Reg A16C  Entry Number 161

Old index gives date of birth 26 Jan 1919

Nice article on Robert Cecil Cox way back in the Summer 2015 edition of 'Pot Mess' (edition no.63)
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 01 October 20 21:06 BST (UK) »
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 01 October 20 21:37 BST (UK) »

Nice article on Robert Cecil Cox way back in the Summer 2015 edition of 'Pot Mess' (edition no.63)
HMS St Vincent Association Members' Magazine

Is that Robert snr or jnr?

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Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #23 on: Friday 02 October 20 07:10 BST (UK) »
Would there have been a home for unwed mothers nearby Gosport that you could check.

Since they informal adoption appears to have been arranged, travelling to pick up the baby would not be out of the ordinary.

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #24 on: Friday 02 October 20 07:27 BST (UK) »
It's about senior
http://www.hmsstvincentassociation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Summer-2015.pdf

Thanks, I asked because my father was there in late '30s when he joined the Navy, and I thought it hadn't been in existence in WW1. But I see it was called Forton Barracks earlier.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #25 on: Friday 02 October 20 07:41 BST (UK) »
The date he got engaged to his sweetheart in the article is interesting May 1918.
National archives have a Norah Harvey joining the WRNS in April 1918 and leaving February 8th 1919 ( Robert  C C was born soon after?)
Still looking at my theory in last post. Here goes..bear with me
Robert Cecil Cox meets Norah Frances Dorothy Harvey aged 17/18 while he was ashore and she was working in the WRNS at the shore establishment Lavatera? in Devonport. They got engaged and then he was sadly KIA.
She met someone else , Edwin B (beachamp?) Thomson , she had the baby Robert C C Thomson in JFM 1919 and named Edwin as father. They appeared to get married in 1923 in Devonport and are in Plymouth in 1939
Perhaps her family took on Robert jnr.
Apologies if I ve added 2 and 2 together to make 4!
The only thing I dont understand is why there are two registrations same number on Freebmd in 1919 for a Robert C C Thomson and a Frederick Goodall Thompson, Robert is not on the GRO index.
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Re: Unknown Fiance of Robert Cecil Cox in Gosport
« Reply #26 on: Friday 02 October 20 09:40 BST (UK) »
I see that the GRO have the below for Frederick

THOMSON, FREDERICK  GOODALL     HARVEY 
GRO Reference: 1919  M Quarter in DEVONPORT  Volume 05B  Page 377  Occasional Copy: A

Info below about occasional copies:-

These are going to be instances where the original registration has been amended in some way, requiring an “occasional copy” to be sent to the Registrar General (ie to supersede the original Quarterly Certified Copy).

They won’t be late registrations, which would be sent in with the Quarterly Certified returns for the relevant quarter.

Info re obtaining an original copy:-

If a change has resulted in a re-registration of a birth, the new entry effectively supersedes the earlier one. The earlier entry remains in the index, but would have to be identified in the usual way and a copy of that earlier entry specifically ordered.

GRO would routinely issue the latest entry unless the customer specifically requests and references the earlier entry and if the earlier entry was provided, GRO would enclose a covering letter stating that this Certificate cannot be used for Official Purposes.


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