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Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« on: Thursday 01 October 20 11:33 BST (UK) »
So i have come across a big block in my family history on my Mother's side. Was trying to trace my 3rd great grandfather called Hilton Roscoe Walmsley born sometime in 1824 in Ainsworth, Lancashire. He was probably born under the name Hilton Roscoe. Only information I can find is a baptism record in Bolton-Le-Moors in November 1824 which lists his mother as Charlotte Roscoe a spinster and it does not note any father's name.

My mother's paternal family are Walmsley, so now it seems that the name Walmsley may have come from a step father? I assume that Charlotte Roscoe had Hilton out of wedlock and later married a Walmsley which Hilton later added to his own name. Is a Walmsley his father, who knows? Is there any way i can find the father of Hilton? I have literally been looking for months and i have no idea what avenue to go down now and i am still fairly new to genealogy.

I also can find no records of Charlotte Roscoe anywhere! I also can find no marriage records for her either or any other children. Without Charlotte's information and without knowing Hilton's father i can't go any further back with my Mother's family.

If anyone can let me know where to look next or may have any information i would greatly appreciate it!
Brick, Walmsley, Roscoe, Colgan, Fraser, Frizzell

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 October 20 11:56 BST (UK) »
Free Reg has the following baptisms:-
John Roscoe. 19 April 1801. Ann Roscoe. 12 Dec 1802. Bolton le moors. Parents Richard and Rachel ( formerly Welch).
May be something; could be nothing

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:06 BST (UK) »
Who did Hilton Roscoe Walmsley marry.  It helps us if we know how you have got back to him as you say the only record you have is his baptism.
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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Is he the Hilton Roscoe Walmsley that married Eliza Oakes in 1854.  According to his marriage his father was James Walmsley occ Block Cutter
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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:16 BST (UK) »
Here is all of the information I have on Hilton:

He lived in Monks Coppenhall in Cheshire in 1851
He married Eliza Oakes in October 1854 in Tranmere, Wirral, Cheshire
He worked as an Iron Turner in Birkenhead, Cheshire
He and Eliza (Elizabeth) had 3 children - James Walmsley (1855-1901), William George Walmsley (1856-1915) and Joseph O Walmsley (1859-1928)
On the 1891 census he is working as a tallor chandler(?) with his wife and 2 grand daughters Eliza and Edith.
Brick, Walmsley, Roscoe, Colgan, Fraser, Frizzell

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:19 BST (UK) »
rosie99 i have been looking for his marriage certificate everywhere! I could only find the registration and not the full certificate. Has that been staring me in the face the whole time?! Oh my goodness i can't believe how quickly you found that!
Brick, Walmsley, Roscoe, Colgan, Fraser, Frizzell

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:20 BST (UK) »
In 1841 he is Hilton Walmsley aged 15

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:30 BST (UK) »
there is a tree on an*****y which gives a lot of information - always verify other peoples trees as there are a lot of trees out there which have been copied along with the mistakes

The son Joseph Oakes Walmsley is listed as a step son -so maybe worth checking out - no information gived about Charlotte

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Re: Hilton Roscoe Walmsley
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 October 20 12:39 BST (UK) »
Just mentioning that Charlotte Roscoe possibly had several children illegitimately, all have her as a spinster - abode Ainsworth

Mercy bapt 14 Aug 1808
Peter bapt 10 Oct 1813
John bapt 17 Mar 1816. (Is he the John that marries a Mary and has a son Hilton)
Thomas bapt 14 May 1820
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