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Frederick George Fennell - help please
« on: Thursday 01 October 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi All
I need some help please with the above gentleman. Where did he come from and where did he go?

Frederick George Fennell appears in my tree when he marries a widow, Alice Brown (maiden name  Swan),  28 Jan 1918 All Saints Portsea, He is age  25 leading Rate in the R.N. father down as John Henry Fennell a Hairdresser.
her address is 5 Gladstone Street .
Witnesses don't appear to be any connection

According to his Naval records he enlisted 1914
"Having already seen six years service in the Navy previous to the outbreak of War in August 1914, he was immediately mobilised and engaged on important patrol duties in the Straits of Dover. He rendered valuable service during the course of hostilities and in 1920 was serving in China. He holds the 1914-1915 star and the General service and victory medals
address 5 Gladstone Street Mile End, Landport"

Rank:   Cook
Regiment:   H.M.S. "Mohawk" and "Tergemont"
Section:   Section X, Portsmouth

closest Possibilities
1901  RG13; Piece: 993; Folio: 103; Page: 6 ed 12 RD Portsmouth
there is a Frederick Fennell in Portsmouth with his parents WILLIAM HENRY FENNELL a hairdresser born c1895 Portsmouth  but he is 3 years younger than I was expecting

1911 RG14; Piece: 5520
there is a George WILLIAM Frederick Fennell age 20 at HMS Excellence Gunnery School in Portsmouth  R.N. Cook. his birth place is Battersea.
I followed him back but his father is completely wrong and all evidence points to him marrying someone else.

Is My Frederick George Fennell the same one as in 1901 and if so where did he go?

Fredrick George Fennell and Alice had one daughter N.P. in 1919

1939  Fareham
Alice Fennell is stating she is married and living with her daughter and 3 others (all closed)
no sign of her husband

There are 6 other Fennell children with mmn Swan in Bristol but that doesn't really add up either.

Alice Fennell died sep 1983 Portsmouth

Any help to try to unravel Alice's husband would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Jenny
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:18 BST (UK) »
ahah!

Just found a service record which ties up with HMS Tergemont
Frederick George Fennell born 30 Aug 1893 NEWPORT MONMOUTH
he was a leading Cook

I shall investigate further...
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:25 BST (UK) »
1901 census

John Fennell occ hairdresser b 1869 Cheltenham.  Wife Amelia.  Son Fred 7 b Cheltenham
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:27 BST (UK) »
George Fennell June qtr 1892  Cheltenham 6a 425

Given his fathers occ I doubt there were many hairdressers with that name so suspect the 1892 birth is the one

EDIT

Perhaps not.  mmn for that birth was Hawling and there is a George Fennell/Jane Hawling marriage 1889 Cheltenham
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you CaroleW

I think that is definitely him.   
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:33 BST (UK) »
See my edit above
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:34 BST (UK) »
Actually he appears to have been born in Newport not Cheltenham

FENNELL, FREDERICK  GEORGE     FORD 
GRO Reference: 1893  S Quarter in NEWPORT MON  Volume 11A  Page 237

parents marriage
Jun 1891
John Fennell
Eliza Amelia W Ford
Newport 11a 350
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:43 BST (UK) »
I have now found his death in 1940

thank you very much for your help CaroleW
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Re: Frederick George Fennell - help please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 October 20 18:45 BST (UK) »
You just beat me to it - just found his birth reg using GRO online and mmn Ford  ;D
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