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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 October 20 12:03 BST (UK) »
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Can I give it..husband probably  living .

If she is dead - yes -  but don't mention husbands name
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 October 20 12:08 BST (UK) »
I think MARTIN might also be used for MCMARTIN family pre 1900s

If my theory is correct Betty Jane s married name was Finkel died 2011
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #11 on: Friday 02 October 20 14:40 BST (UK) »
Update:  the match with adopted grandfather has a 53 cm across 4 segments ,,to a supposed grandchild of Silas
McMartin

 which suggests to me a more distant relation

So we.ll have to look at Silas siblings and uncles for a connection to the grandfather .
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 October 20 15:47 BST (UK) »
From a tree mother of Silas Edwin senior
 Margaret Marshall JENKINS  1823 d 1903 michigan

Father John McMartin d 5oct 1895 Michigan

Other children of Silas senior and Alice ODell

Living escanaba ward Michigan 1920

Alice mcmartin 1902
Raymond McMartin 1905
Harold mcmartin 1907
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 October 20 15:54 BST (UK) »
Alice Susan O'Dell
B 1867=

Parents Peter Lewis O'Dell 1831 d 1911

Mary Emeline Denney 1838  new York  d1876
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Parents Absalom Denney 1799to 1859
Lydia Jane gillett 1796 1867
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #14 on: Friday 02 October 20 16:17 BST (UK) »
Which is why I have never bothered with DNA :)

I think I have found enough info to satisfy my curiosity - Irish & Scottish on my fathers side and pure Liverpudlian on my mothers side  ;D

My only regret is not being able to determine who my paternal g/g/grandparents were because of the problem with Irish records that far back.  If I had found their names I would have left it there.  I do have one name as she moved to Liverpool with them so will have to be satisfied with that

Good luck with your matches!!
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Re: Silas mcmartin b 1899 + Irma Harriet Aker b1900
« Reply #15 on: Friday 02 October 20 17:06 BST (UK) »
I think the dna is leading to correct solution
Maybe should transfer topic to dna board to get opinions

Am having messages with person concerned J
Most of our shared matches are from grandchildren of silas and irma

But J tells me she has a stronger link ."V"  115cm 4 segments to another daughter of Betty jean mcmartin ....father of Betty is private and mother given as gladys garette 1891

Bettys husband given as william r OMAHEN 1923 Illinois to.2003

So if the connection is thru 3 generations of half siblings

My theory
Betty jean  mother of V has father who is   great  grandfather of J

Is that right or am I a generation out
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Re: silas mcmartin and irma Acker dna
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 October 20 18:28 BST (UK) »

Charles and betty jane Mcmartin could be half siblings ...how would that effect results ?

Half second cousin fits in with the amount
But I suspect a big generational difference J must be young if her grandfather was born 1945

So is half great great neice more likely
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Re: silas mcmartin and irma Acker dna
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 14:56 BST (UK) »
Update looks
Like irma JANES was first wife of silas junior

Where does her surname come from
If her parents are william AKER 1865 & ,Mary ellen lavier 1883
Grandparents of irma..ira LAVIER ,1858
Élisabeth CREASEY 1865_1965

One more generation moses creasey 1824 m ellen WAUD 1828

I think shes done really well to track back an adoptee so far
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