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Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« on: Friday 02 October 20 12:00 BST (UK) »
In the Summer I heard of "Genomes" and "Sequencing" in relation to SARS CoV-2 the Virus which causes the illness Covid-19.

I don't fully understand Human DNA, but was left with the feeling the current Virus might have its own Lineages (like we can use DNA to help trace Human lineages)?

I've kept an eye on this story and found this today dated 2nd October 2020

https://www.businessweekly.co.uk/news/academia-research/genome-sequencing-used-identify-ways-stopping-covid-19-spread

Covid-19 Genome Sequencing in Norfolk, England 1st October 2020, England Research
https://quadram.ac.uk/covid-19-genome-sequencing-in-norfolk-helps-manage-coronavirus-outbreaks/

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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 October 20 13:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the links, Mark. Very interesting reading - & shows what is going on behind the scenes to fight this disease.


I'm definitely 'following the science' as they are the ones who will come up with an answer for us in the end.


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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 October 20 13:47 BST (UK) »
I found it interesting that  food processing factories,including one for
M&S, their chicken processing and also a sandwich making outlet.
In
Viktoria.Wales and Germany ,.
We were scornful of the conditions in the food market in Wuhan,the seeming source of the outbreak in China, but can we still be confident about things here,is there something as yet not tied up with or a relationship not as yet
realised?


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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 October 20 14:16 BST (UK) »
I found it interesting that  food processing factories,including one for
M&S, their chicken processing and also a sandwich making outlet.

We were scornful of the conditions in the food market in Wuhan,the seeming source of the outbreak in China, but can we still be confident about things here,is there something as yet not tied up with or a relationship not as yet
realised?


Not really, the science here is suggesting that all those infected at a workplace were from one common source.
It can be almost impossible to socially distance in many workplaces, the science is confirming that.

The academic foundation behind this research is investigating amongst other things, the relationship between healthy gut bacteria and resistance to disease, so really we should not be eating processed foods anyway as the “preservatives” can kill healthy bacteria as well as harmful ones.


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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 October 20 14:58 BST (UK) »
There has been a real hunger by our UK Government and UK Scientists to scrutinise initial scientific claims and  conduct research into how and whether they might help the UK track and fight this wretched disease.

You can't 'put all your eggs in one basket' and hope that you might be able to rely on one solution to fight Covid.

In the meantime it is:- Hands, Face, Space.

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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 October 20 15:28 BST (UK) »
Well, not to go into too much detail ,but it is now realised over scrupulous
hygiene is not as beneficial to newborn babies as has been the norm for many years .
They should meet with certain bacteria whilst having some protection ,but as the initial protection wears off they will have built some immunity gradually.

Otherwise how would  any babies born in primitive conditions survive ?
It is getting the balance right isnít it, between conditions so bad and those overly clean.
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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 October 20 15:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the links, but I've only read one so far. I've always known that the flu virus (for example) hits one district, travels onward, mutates and arrives back again in a mutated form.  However, I find it quite disturbing that this virus can more or less copy short sequences of genomes.  For instance a researcher in Germany "nearly fell of my chair" when he discovered a similar genome sequence chain to that found in the remains of prehistoric man and still found in Asia which explains why Asian men have been falling ill.

We now learn from this Norfolk Laboratory team that they have identified 100 different lineages in that county alone!  These were sequenced and examined for tiny changes that indicate different types, or lineages, of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.  It's like something from a horror film when you read this:-  " the virus copies genomes in specific groups!!!   Sanity tells me that the originator of an outbreak of a strain of this virus can be traced much like a thief can be traced by fingerprints (and I hope they throw the book at irresponsible originators)
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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 October 20 16:06 BST (UK) »
a similar genome sequence chain to that found in the remains of prehistoric man and still found in Asia which explains why Asian men have been falling ill.
There was an article in The Times in the past few days saying that the Neanderthal genome was particularly vulnerable to coronavirus; particularly in Bangladesh.
https://www.sciencealert.com/severe-coronavirus-has-been-linked-to-neanderthal-genes-from-60-000-years-ago

hTe effect of Neanderthal genes on immune response has been known for a while
https://www.nature.com/news/neanderthal-dna-affects-ethnic-differences-in-immune-response-1.20854

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Re: Different Types or Lineages of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 October 20 18:08 BST (UK) »
Rena, it is necessary for our Scientists and Specialists to fully understand it. It is a "novel " or unique virus.
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The UK have a number of different Test types known as Pillars started months ago, some for longer term medical research. Even full body scanning is already underway of those with long term effects by University Scientists and Researchers.

The BBC say recently that only 18% isolated with symptons.

The UK is claimed to be doing more testing than anywhere in Europe
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3497

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