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John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« on: Monday 05 October 20 10:48 BST (UK) »
Hello all, This is my first post here.  I have been researching my Mead family line via Ancestry and in particular a 2nd Gt. Grandfather John Chennell who was married to Eliza Lineger and worked as a Gardener on the Windsor royal estate. Census info from 1851 onwards consistently states he was born in Warnham, Sussex in 1838, however I just cannot find any trace of him in any records i have searched for that name/DoB in Warnham itself, though there are certainly Chennells in Warnham. Other Ancestry Trees with Chennells also seem to come to dead end at this same point. In the 1851 census, when he is (apparently) only 13, he is living with a family in Hanover Square London and then in 1861 census and thereafter he is living and working at Windsor. 
Here's hoping anyone may be able to help.

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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:42 BST (UK) »
Greetings, and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registration:
CHENNEL John, Dec qtr 1837 Horsham vol 7 p275, mmn BENNETT
Warnham was in the Horsham Registration District.


The GRO website is:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
- it is free to register and search, and the cheapest place to order BMD certificates.  The birth certificate should give you the parents' full names and (if any) the father's occupation.

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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 October 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

I see that there are 2 John Chennel's born in Warnham around the same time, do you have the marriage certificate for your which should give the name of his father. 
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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 October 20 12:47 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

I see that there are 2 John Chennel's born in Warnham around the same time, do you have the marriage certificate for your which should give the name of his father.

What is the source?  I had a look on FreeReg and couldn't see a baptism for John.
Good point about the father's name - I hadn't thought of that.  For reference, the marriage (found on FreeBMD):
Sep qtr 1863 St George Hanover Square vol 1a p540 CHENNELL John, same page as LINEGAR Eliza


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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 October 20 12:54 BST (UK) »
I was looking at census so birth dates are always 'flexible'  one married an Elizabeth the other an Eliza but I think the birth you have is for the right one as the other generally is older. 
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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 October 20 15:48 BST (UK) »
Outside possibility, maybe :-\
Marriage at St James Westminster, 11 April 1836
John Chennell + Sarah Bennett

Baptism at Ockley, Surrey, 11 March 1838
John
Son of John + Sarah Chennell
abode Watton
father Gardener

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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 October 20 18:02 BST (UK) »
Many thanks all of you for helping here. I found the birth record as posted though not sure why i hadn't found it before! I've put Bennett in the Tree as the mother but still cant get any further as no further Hints come up. I think the Westminster marriage may be a red herring (tho who knows) as Censuses all show John Chennell as born in Warnham, but thanks for looking anyway. I'm guessing that if John Chennell's parents live din Warnham then they are probably buried there, or close by, so maybe i just need to go there and trawl around. 
Thanks again, but if any other insights do let me know, as I'm relatively new to this and probably don't know all the search "tricks"..

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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 08:38 BST (UK) »
Does his marriage to Eliza Lineger name his father as that should help to confirm if Jonw65 has the right baptism
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Re: John Chennel from Warnham, Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 October 20 12:36 BST (UK) »
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat :D

I would hang on to the baptism and marriage Jon found as quite likely. Ockley is less than 5 miles from Warnham.

Jan

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In Wotton, Surrey 1841 there is a 3 year old John Chennell  living with Edward Chennell 55 and Elizabeth Chennell 55 and Eliza 15 and Martha 13. They are all born in county except John and Edward. HO 107/1081/3/20 Pg6
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