No sighting of John in 1861.
His Bapt:
31/3/1844 St. Michael's Bartley Green.
This is Edward in 1861, Lapal Halesowen:
Mary Andrews 53
William Andrews 28
Amelia Shilrock 24 marr. dau.
David Andrews 20
Maria Andrews 18
Thomas Andrews 16
Fanny Andrews 14
Matilda Andrews 11 (no mmn.)
Dinah Andrews 8 (no mmn.)
Edward Andrews 46 boarder.
All the children are listed as sons & daughters of Mary.
The only children I can see registered to Edward & Eliza Joseph(s) are Harriet & John.
Eliza died in 1846.
See 1851 census.