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Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« on: Monday 05 October 20 10:49 BST (UK) »
I have the marriage certificate for Eliza Andrews to Joseph Barratt for 9th Aug 1885, at the Parish church of Black Heath, registration District Stourbridge. They both give Langley as their address, she is age 20, spinster, no occupation, father John Andrews, witnessed by Joseph Yeomans? and Sarah Jane Hackett.
 Looking on the GRO site for births around 1865+/- 2 years, there are over 70 Eliza Andrews registered as born around the country, of which at least 5 are born in Worcs/Birmingham area. Using FreeBMD, I have checked for marriages between a John Andrews and the MMNs given for the Birmingham area births and at least three have the groom as John - Emma Rose, Harriet Green and Hannah Tustin. There may well be others I have missed. Please can anyone help me find the correct family?
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Spark/Sparke/Sparkes: Somerset and South Wales
Hancock, Palfrey: Somerset
Hammond(s): Leicestershire (North Kilworth)and Yorkshire
Barratt :Oldbury,West Midlands and Yorkshire
Lanyon:St Just,Cornwall and South Wales
Gane/Gaine;Somerset (Compton Martin)and South Wales
Thomas; South Wales

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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:09 BST (UK) »
We really need 1881 census checking

What was father's occupation on marriage cert

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:11 BST (UK) »
Could you please give details from the 1891 census
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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:26 BST (UK) »
possibles
1891
RG12/2266 FOLIO52 PAGE 8
Joseph aged 25 coal minor born Oldbury Worcs
Eliza 25 Bartley Green/Barley Green
Lily 4 Oldbury
Joseph 1 Oldbury, MMN checked Andrews

1901,
RG13/2707 F96 P47
Joseph 33
Eliza 35
Lily 14
Joseph 4

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:28 BST (UK) »
That 1891 census is the one posted on several Ancestry trees for them.

Not yet found censuses for her in 1881, 1871 in their trees.

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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for replying. Eliza's father John's occupation on her marriage certificate is difficult to read but looks something like stone or stoke br....?
The only census information I have for 1891 is an address of 73 Park Lane, Oldbury. I don't have any subscriptions to sites at the moment to look at the census records in full - I'm looking at research done by family from 30 years ago and the researcher is no longer with us.
Thanks
Tig
Spark/Sparke/Sparkes: Somerset and South Wales
Hancock, Palfrey: Somerset
Hammond(s): Leicestershire (North Kilworth)and Yorkshire
Barratt :Oldbury,West Midlands and Yorkshire
Lanyon:St Just,Cornwall and South Wales
Gane/Gaine;Somerset (Compton Martin)and South Wales
Thomas; South Wales

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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:40 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage for a John Andrews and Emma Rose in Stourbridge in 1863, and a birth for an Eliza in Kings Norton in 1866.

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Also a Jane in 1869, same area and mmn.

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Re: Eliza Andrews -which one is 'mine'?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 October 20 11:41 BST (UK) »
1871 ?
 RG10; Piece: 3084; Folio: 91; Page: 32
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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