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off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« on: Monday 05 October 20 15:38 BST (UK) »
The below is the original post regarding Elizabeth Lucy Heath born 1909 parents Ernest George Heath and Elizabeth Agnes.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=838293.0

The op was asking for info re her birth etc which I believe has been found. My interest in this and possibly the op is what was Elizabeth Lucy's  father's background.

I believe him to be one Ernest John George Heath born mq 1864 Wandsworth 1d 459 with a mmn of "BUTEUX" taken from gro index. He records in 1891 rg12 235 160 41 and 1901 nrg 13 264 41 13 as to being a police constable and born in Battersea (covered by Wandsworh reg dist). He is easily found in 1911.

The original post details his marriage to Elizabeth in 1906 but he was seemingly a divorced man.
He previously married Alice Louisa Liston in 1889 London City. On that marriage cert he is a police constable aged 25 with a father John Heath occ Iron Merchant.

The divorce papers (online on ANC*) make interesting reading but throw up more questions than answers.
It records that Alice Louisa set up with one William Pratt and seemingly had a child with to him born 16th September 1900. Also noted is William Pratt died on the 4th October 1902 (probably William John Pratt ref dq 1902 Hackney aged 48)

Can anyone answer any of the following.

Apart from Ernest saying his father was John on marriage cert who are his parents?
Where is Ernest in 1871 & 1881 census?
What is the name of the child delivered to Alice Louisa on the 16.9.1900?
Where is Alice Louisa in 1901, with or without William and child and onwards?  edit--see next post

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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 October 20 15:56 BST (UK) »
Think I may have answered 2 questions,

1901 census ref rg13 285 153 11.

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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 October 20 15:59 BST (UK) »
Just reposting this from the other post

1911 for Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X75V-SCJ

HEATH, ELIZABETH  LUCY     mmn HITCHINGS 
GRO Reference: 1909  M Quarter in YARMOUTH GREAT YARMOUTH  Volume 04B  Page 17

Marriage Jun qtr 1906   
HEATH    Ernest George       
HITCHINGS    Elizabeth Agnes       
London C.    1c   60
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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 October 20 16:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks rosie, think this is birth of child,

HEATH, ALICE  ELIZABETH     LISTER 
GRO Reference: 1900  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 138

Would still like to find Ernest in 1871/81 though so I can sleep tonight ;D
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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 09:05 BST (UK) »
He does appear to be the only birth for a Heath/Buteux in England and Wales.

Have you found any police records for him?

No direct Buteux/Heath marriage, but she could have married before.

Cannot see a baptism.

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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 09:26 BST (UK) »
In 1866 in West Hackney,  a John Earnest Heath, commercial traveller, father Joseph Heath, gentleman, married an Annie Marie Cook, widow, father Peter Buteux, deceased, civil engineer.

Just putting for consideration.

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She first married in 1853 when she was a minor.

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There is an 1851 census with her and a sister, she was born in The Hague, and her Mother has remarried.  Age 17.

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Re: off shoot of a recent post and challenge!!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 09:44 BST (UK) »
Constance Harriet Cook, 1859, and Annie Elizabeth Cook, 1855, mmn Buteux.

These 2 are at school in Margate, Kent in 1871.

Together with widowed mother in 1861.