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Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« on: Wednesday 07 October 20 11:39 BST (UK) »
Hello, I'd be very grateful for some help to fill in the blanks of this document from (i think) 1671. It seems to be a list of goods for William Southam (lived in Banbury). This is what i have so far:

This [??] and [??] monetary of the goods of William Sotham [??] [??] the ______________
Sum for [??] ________[1?]____0____0
Sum for the bed and furniture in the chamber   -------0-------15------0
Sum for linen -------------0-------5-------0....
Sum for a table and sideboard and [thereof?] and [??] ____0_____5_____0
Sum in the [??] and [??] __________0______2_____0
Sum for [??] [lumber?]____________0_____0_____1
               ----------2-----8--------0

[Byouf?] [Eisgan Southam?]
[Mark?] [??]
Henry [Baffg?]

Any clarification would be most welcome and gratefully received - many thanks indeed.

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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 12:43 BST (UK) »
My reading is:
This Is a treu and parfit monatary monatary of the goodes of
Willam Sotham (?) March the 10
Item for the Bed and fornitud in the Chamber
Item for his (warin?) Chest
Item for a table and sidrebord and (?)
Item in the potry Bras and drinke (?)
Item for ad lomber


I would have expected the missing word in line 2 to be dated, but it doesn't seem to fit the writing. EDITED - could it be desed (for deceased)?

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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 12:52 BST (UK) »
My tries!
Bed and furniture
Marine chest?
After the sideboard entry:
Item in the xxxtry Brass and Drinksbrxxles though this doesn't make sense  ???
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:07 BST (UK) »
My tries!

Marine chest?
After the sideboard entry:
Item in the ...try Brass and Drinks....les

I wondered about warin (wearing, i.e. clothes) or marin (marine)

I also wondered about Item in the potry (pottery) - could it be pantry?  Either could make sense.  EDITED - could it be botry (buttery)?

I get the feeling that the writer did not do enough writing to have a consistent style!

Just to finish off:
profed by ous   Richard Southam
                              Nicholas
X (Boaare?) marrk
                              Henry Basse
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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:15 BST (UK) »

Item for the Bed and fornitud in the Chamber

I think its forniture. The squiggle at the end isnt d but is a commonly used contraction of the letters er or re.
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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:22 BST (UK) »

Item for the Bed and fornitud in the Chamber

I think its forniture. The squiggle at the end isnt d but is a commonly used contraction of the letters er or re.

Yay, I've learned something new today!  I hadn't come across that before.  Forniture it is.   :) :)

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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:35 BST (UK) »

Item for the Bed and fornitud in the Chamber

I think its forniture. The squiggle at the end isnt d but is a commonly used contraction of the letters er or re.

Yay, I've learned something new today!  I hadn't come across that before.  Forniture it is.   :) :)

Philip

I sounded very confident! I hope I was right.
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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:37 BST (UK) »
Have you got any take on the item after sideboard, JenB?
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help needed for deciphering some 17th century words in an inventory of goods
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 October 20 13:43 BST (UK) »
Item for ad lomber[/b][/i]

Might this be old lumber (i.e. the o and l overlapping so looking like an a)?
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