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Re: My 3rd G Uncle on a UK Prison hulk ship
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 October 20 06:58 BST (UK) »
Just spotted the entry following John Drinkwater's entry in the FindMyPast court record -
"William Drinkwater, age 56, offence - assault on a peace officer, verdict - not guilty".

Tried at the same sessions - so John couldn't have got very far after absconding?

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Re: My 3rd G Uncle on a UK Prison hulk ship
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 October 20 15:07 BST (UK) »
thanks to all the rootschat members who contributed here. This information is a great insight into my Uncle's crimes. All the evidence points to John being a rebel . I have researched his family, and given his hard upbringing and life in Cheshire at the time , i am not surprised about his fate.

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Ex Con's fate in Victoria
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 October 20 18:49 BST (UK) »
Looking for more information about my ancestor John Drinkwater b 1808 in Cheshire UK . He was exported to Tasmania aboard the "Surrey" convict ship from the UK in 1842. All i know is that he was released from prison in 1849 (7 yr sentence)  He Died in Victoria in 1868. "Can anyone find any Australian  census's and tell me his fate after he was released?". I have hit brickwall between 1849 and 1868?. I appreciate any help and thank you.

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Re: Ex Con's fate in Victoria
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 10 October 20 20:20 BST (UK) »
Convict conduct record and indent
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-27$init=CON33-1-27p51
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON14-1-13$init=CON14-1-13 images 254 & 255

Death- John Drinkwater Vic reg 1722/1868 57yo
Place of birth - CHES
f. William m. Ann

Death of John Drinkwater aged 57 announced by Benevolent Asylum
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article176999110

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Re: Ex Con's fate in Victoria
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 10 October 20 22:20 BST (UK) »


Link to concurrent thread on the same subject to save people finding the same information twice over.

Threads merged.

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Re: Ex Con's fate in Victoria
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 October 20 13:52 BST (UK) »
Death of John Drinkwater aged 57 announced by Benevolent Asylum
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article176999110
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Re: My 3rd G Uncle on a UK Prison hulk ship
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 October 20 21:11 BST (UK) »
Another post here on same topic

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Re: My 3rd G Uncle on a UK Prison hulk ship
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 October 20 22:33 BST (UK) »
thanks to you all for your contributions here. I did trace John back to Victoria after prison and he Did die in a benevolent asylum in Victoria.

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Re: Ex Con's fate in Victoria
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 October 20 02:05 BST (UK) »
In most cases Convicts who had been freed may have  had a conditional pardon which meant they could not leave Australia. Many came to Victoria for the Gold rush (1851 to late 1860's) There is a project which makes interesting background reading for anyone who had a convict ancestor. (I worked on this project)
https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/VDL_Founders_and_Survivors_Convicts_1802-1853
I suspect your John Drinkwater did come for the gold but like many ( single) men, fell on hard times and was cared for at the Benevolent asylum

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