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Day of month in 1602 document.
« on: Saturday 10 October 20 00:34 BST (UK) »
Hi, Please could somebody confirm the attached date for me from a 1602 Cheshire document ? I know it is 20-something but I am not sure what. Thanks in advance for any help. Simon
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Re: Day of month in 1602 document.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 October 20 04:42 BST (UK) »
xxviijth = 28th

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Re: Day of month in 1602 document.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 October 20 10:25 BST (UK) »
Hi, horselydown86,

A big thank you for that. It is the final 'iij' part followed by the 'th' that I was unsure of. That will now be my 'go to' reference. Just one follow-on if I may, would I be right in saying therefore that the new attached is 'xliij'th, i.e. '43rd' ? If so, I think I will have the hang of working out these numbers.

Best wishes.

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.


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Re: Day of month in 1602 document.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 October 20 12:56 BST (UK) »
43rd is correct. The reason for the o at the end is that the Latin for 43rd ends in "tertio".

When writing Roman numerals ending in i, it was fairly normal to lengthen the last one to j - ij, iij, vij. This was partly a stylistic thing, but it also meant that nobody could add an extra i later and increase the number.

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Re: Day of month in 1602 document.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 October 20 14:21 BST (UK) »
Hi, GR2,

Thank you - that was incredibly helpful. And also interesting - the idea of adding an extra 'i' never occurred to me but Roman numerals clearly lend themselves to abuse in that way.

Best wishes.

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.