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Place name in Cardiganshire.
« on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hello, I just cannot decipher this name from 1891,  it looks like it begins with P.   Many thanks.
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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:35 BST (UK) »
Penbolar on google.

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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hhmm bit of a head scratcher this one  ::)

It certainly begins with Pen but the rest of it is uncertain.  It looks like Penlolar but there is no place of that name that I can see in Cardiganshire.

Have you checked other census records for this person to see what they say?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:40 BST (UK) »
I checked Dulaigh's suggestion but whatever Pen Bolar is it is not in Cardiganshire.  As I said earlier it may be a good idea to check other census records for this person.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:48 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the suggestions, I don't know if we are allowed to write his name, but I can only find him on the 1891 census, he was married twice in South Wales.

This census is from Llanwonno, Pontypridd, South Wales.  With his first child.
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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:56 BST (UK) »
On the line below is his wife born in Talybont Carmarthenshire, and then the child born in Ferndale Pontypridd.
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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 20 12:02 BST (UK) »
Of course you can provide a name, the 1891 census was 129 years ago.  So if you would like to provide his name, year of birth and his wife's name as well, we can have a look for you.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 20 12:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much, he was John Owen Thomas, born about 1856 in the name above. I have looked at the register and there is a suitable match. December 1857 in the registration district of Aberystwyth.

He married his second wife Mary Davies in 1889 in Ferndale Pontypridd. The first child is on the 1891 census and the second child was born in 1894 but the mother died in childbirth and there is also a suitable register for the death. In 1901 the children are living with the mother's mother.  One Ann Davies, Born 1839 in TalyBont cardiganshire. They are living in Pontypridd South Wales. I can't find John Owen Thomas in 1901 and I can't find any suitable death register.

I do have the marriage certificate and his father is down as John Owen. Not with a Thomas at the end.    His occupation on his marriage certificate matches that of the census in that he is a underground fireman.
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Re: Place name in Cardiganshire.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 October 20 12:22 BST (UK) »
I think these are the reference numbers you need for that particular census

Registration district   Pontypridd
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   4412
Folio   5
Page   10
Record set   1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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