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Re: Missing records
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 17 October 20 12:07 BST (UK) »
which neighbouring parishes are you looking for?

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 October 20 09:28 BST (UK) »
which neighbouring parishes are you looking for?

any that border standish... croston in particular.
Derbys - Hill, Atkins, Kirkland, Hutchinson, Hallam, Rose, Houseley, Astle.
Lancashire - Shaw, Greenwood, Fowler, Yates
Gloucester - Nethercott, Flight,
Suffolk - Easey, Stannard, Meadows, Mann, Turner, Juby
Warwicks - Atkins, Sumner, Mower, Howe.
Staffs - Finney, Kent, Corden, Chatterton

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 18 October 20 09:35 BST (UK) »
Croston records are available on Lancashire opc site - marriages from 1538.


Added:  Ancestry say they have records from 1538 for Croston, plus BT's from 1600.

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 18 October 20 12:03 BST (UK) »
Croston records are available on Lancashire opc site - marriages from 1538.


Added:  Ancestry say they have records from 1538 for Croston, plus BT's from 1600.

ahhh thanks, i found them on the ops site.... cant find them on ancestry, can only see the standish ones thanks to a link posted on this thread :)
Derbys - Hill, Atkins, Kirkland, Hutchinson, Hallam, Rose, Houseley, Astle.
Lancashire - Shaw, Greenwood, Fowler, Yates
Gloucester - Nethercott, Flight,
Suffolk - Easey, Stannard, Meadows, Mann, Turner, Juby
Warwicks - Atkins, Sumner, Mower, Howe.
Staffs - Finney, Kent, Corden, Chatterton

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 18 October 20 12:53 BST (UK) »
I have found my map of Lancashire Parishes

To the north of Standish were the parishes of Chorley and Leyland 1651 to the West was Eccleston and within that was  Douglas, to the south was Wigan and within that Upholland and Billinge, to the east was The church at Rivington from 1703 which was in the parish of Bolton le Moors, Horwich from 1660 which was in the parish of Deane and Blackrod from 1607 which was also in the parish of Bolton le Moors.

You could also look at wills to see if that gave any places for the family or where the spouse cane from which might be where they married.

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:09 BST (UK) »
A county map showing parishes is on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website.
 www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html
You can then look at the home page for each parish to see list of churches and which register transcripts are there.
I use the Ancestor Search pages on LANOPC (under "Search" in menu) when attempting to find people in nearby parishes. Select parish, in this case Standish as the starting point.
Enter ancestor's name or just surname if it's not a common one, year +/- up to 20 years; enter a distance in the distance box e.g. 5 miles. List of results will show distance from your chosen central church in Standish. I tried it for my Roby ancestors whose earliest records in Standish were 1770's and found a few possibilities for baptisms of my 5xGGM in adjacent parishes.
 
Another source for locating churches is GENUKI. Can see a list of churches in a place or do a search for churches within a chosen radius, filtered by denomination if required, and see them marked on a map. Markers on maps are colour-coded by denomination; red = C. of E. Click on a marker for name and foundation year of a church.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Standish
Select "Nearby Churches". Churches within 3 miles radius will appear on the map.
Information on GENUKI, like LANOPC is provided by volunteers.
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Re: Missing records
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 18 October 20 17:05 BST (UK) »

I have a similar problem with missing marriages in Lancashire in the early - mid 1700s, some of the families were Catholic or non-conformists (they're in the 1767 papist list) and I've had a wee bit of luck linking people using Lancashire Wills (freely available online via Familysearch). It's a bit time consuming but quite good fun...
This is a good link to start with (can also be checked against Lancashire Archives catalogue)

http://user.xmission.com/~nelsonb/lws.htm



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Re: Missing records
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 18 October 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
The most likely neighbouring places for missing early Standish marriages are Eccleston and Wigan.

CofE Baptisms and burials, if not at Standish, are possibly at Coppull (which was a chapel-of-ease to Standish), Blackrod (which was a chapel-of-ease to Bolton St. Peter's) and Euxton (which was a chapel-of-ease to Leyland St. Andrew's), besides Eccleston & Wigan. Douglas Chapel was a chapel-of-ease to Eccleston.

Separate Euxton records begin in 1711; before then events might be in the Leyland registers.

Euxton St. Mary's RC records start at 1740, from the private chapel in Euxton Hall.

Chorley St. Gregory RC has records from 1802.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Missing records
« Reply #26 on: Monday 19 October 20 10:39 BST (UK) »
thank you everyone :)
Derbys - Hill, Atkins, Kirkland, Hutchinson, Hallam, Rose, Houseley, Astle.
Lancashire - Shaw, Greenwood, Fowler, Yates
Gloucester - Nethercott, Flight,
Suffolk - Easey, Stannard, Meadows, Mann, Turner, Juby
Warwicks - Atkins, Sumner, Mower, Howe.
Staffs - Finney, Kent, Corden, Chatterton