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Offline KenSim

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Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 16:09 BST (UK) »
Thomas Johnston my 2x great grandfather and Isabel Samson aka Isabella Simpson he disappeared after the Sheriff  Court paternity decree naming him as the father ordered him to pay Alimony until my great grandfather Archibald  Simpson seven years old. The date on the paternity decree is November 1858 and his address was Tannadice house, Tannadice, Angus, Scotland. Where he was employed as a coachman. I can find nothing of him in the usual places like Scotlands people or newspaper archives either before or after this event. Would love to hear from anyone who has any clues about Thomas. I suspect that he may have done a runner to avoid the alimony payments.
Simpson, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area.
Burns, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area
Mann ,Newtyle, Kirriemuir, the Angus glens, Friockheim to Arbroath

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 October 20 17:27 BST (UK) »
Can you tell us when and where Thomas was born please?  Have you looked for him on any census record either Scottish or English?

Looked for him on any travel records?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 October 20 17:34 BST (UK) »
As I  said ,I can't find anything about him before or after and I have checked cecus, BDM ,newspaper archives and ships passenger lists for more hours than I care to think about . I have found lots of possibilities but nothing that can be verified as him.
Simpson, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area.
Burns, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area
Mann ,Newtyle, Kirriemuir, the Angus glens, Friockheim to Arbroath


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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 October 20 17:40 BST (UK) »
I did ask you to tell me when and where he was born.  There is no guarantee that anyone else will be able to find him but knowing his birth date or year and place that he was born may assist.  Do you know what his occupation was?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:09 BST (UK) »
I know nothing about him before or after the paternity decree  ,dont know where he lived, where he was born or where he went afterwards and in the original post I gave his occupation as coachman.
Simpson, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area.
Burns, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area
Mann ,Newtyle, Kirriemuir, the Angus glens, Friockheim to Arbroath

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 October 20 10:27 BST (UK) »
What can you tell us about Isabell/la -  Date & place of birth - census details for 1851 & 1861
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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 October 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi , Isabella Simpson aka Isabel Samson was born about 1842 Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Father George Sampson  and mother Marjory Piggott
She was staying with her sister and family at Lammertn farm near Monifieth, Angus, Scotland when Archibald was born in 1858.
1871 census shows Isabella and Archibald living with her parents in Tannadice village but strangely he is recorded as Archibald Johnston. When Archibald married he was calling himself Simpson and that is now my family name.
Isabella died 13 March 1886 in Tannadice, Angus,  Scotland.
I will attach the relevant part of the Sheriff Court ruling naming Thomas Johnston as the father.
I think Thomas may have disappeared to avoid the alimony payments.
Simpson, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area.
Burns, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area
Mann ,Newtyle, Kirriemuir, the Angus glens, Friockheim to Arbroath

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 October 20 12:37 BST (UK) »
Sorry had to remove the attachment and cut parts  from the previous post as it made the post too big.
Simpson, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area.
Burns, Glamis, Newtyle, Kinnettles area
Mann ,Newtyle, Kirriemuir, the Angus glens, Friockheim to Arbroath

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Re: Where did Thomas Johnston go?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 October 20 12:44 BST (UK) »
I know nothing about him before or after the paternity decree  ,dont know where he lived, where he was born or where he went afterwards and in the original post I gave his occupation as coachman.

May or may not be your Thomas he has same occupation

Thomas Johnson
Residence Year:   1885-1886
Street Address:   13 Atholl crescent lane
Residence Edinburgh, Scotland
Occupation:   Coachman