The New Series

[brigidmac]

It would be better in my opinion to put father unknown for Your nan but put in a note  who potential candidates are

But include their trees as floating branches again with a tag or note leading people to your main tree
That way anyone searching for Fox Weir Fenney o another may see potential links on your tree

Does that make sense ?

[Littlebn20]

No it was George Thomas Fox

Look at both of their grandparents surnames if you can find them and see if any come up in shared surname match .

It looks like George didn't have any legit matches with Bridget Doherty
So if your other match is his greatgranddaughter maybe she doesn't know where the match comes from . It will be harde to find connection .

I saw that you'd added John Horace Weir

Was absolutely convinced that it was Fox but literally no Irish Fox's in either my shared matches with her, or others. There is also no evidence of his travel to the UK,nor evidence of Kathierine's travel to Ireland. I think he was born and died in the same house? DNA connection to Weir's great grandson (from what I can sus) 103cm across 5 segments. He is a mutual match with Fox's granddaughter also. Evidence of  Weir being in Lancashire during the time and was in the RAF and looked to be injured a lot! So possible that he was in hospital in the area.  Unfortunately this match is also unwilling to help.

[Littlebn20]

It would be better in my opinion to put father unknown for Your nan but put in a note  who potential candidates are

But include their trees as floating branches again with a tag or note leading people to your main tree
That way anyone searching for Fox Weir Fenney o another may see potential links on your tree

Does that make sense ?

It does. Thank you for all your advice.

[brigidmac]

That's great it does sound very likely then.
103 cm is a significant amount is that to you or your mother ?

Now you've made one breakthrough more will come

Do you mean that Weir was the true birth father to the Fox descendant too ?

Ps you don't have to use whole quote each time .

your profile photo pic of your nan is lovely how old is she there ?

[Nova67]

Jool(s) that was a good find with the death notice at reply#63.

I am still thinking on the letter.

In 1901, the census shows the family living at 2 Churchill Street
In 1911, 12 Entwhistle, St, Manchester, which is the same address given for Katherine herself a top the letter.

Re "the New Series": In 1902, the  newly invented Edison Gold-Molded hard wax cylinders were revolutionising the sound recording industry at the time. New fang-dangled things that could be played over and over.

So, the letter presumably is written between these dates.

[Nova67]

Need to see who is living at the Entwhistle address in 1901?

Added: I do not know if this is of any use?

Per Katherine Emily Bayliss (in blue, not her writing)
12 Entwhistle Sreet
Moss Side

I have found two people living at 12 Entwistle  St (spelling) on the 1901 Census.

Address is: 12 Entwistle Street Salford Lancashire

Does that sound right?

[brigidmac]

Nova great find about the music

Re the letter I understood.reading between lines and all posts that it was written by the child Catherine from her home address before 1911 & saved and maybe sent to her as a.young adult when she was living at the 1911 family home using  Katherine spelling

My question re handwriting what is the word after Churchill st.
Before Manchester.

We were taught to put our own address on top right corner
Addressees address if included was two lines lower on left side

All those conventions have.now gone out of the window.

[Jool]

My question re handwriting what is the word after Churchill st.
Before Manchester.

C on M  -  Chorlton-on-Medlock 

[Nova67]

Need to see who is living at the Entwhistle address in 1901?

Added: I do not know if this is of any use?

Per Katherine Emily Bayliss (in blue, not her writing)
12 Entwhistle Sreet
Moss Side

I have found two people living at 12 Entwistle  St (spelling) on the 1901 Census.

Address is: 12 Entwistle Street Salford Lancashire

Does that sound right?

No, it does not. I have tried truncation etc.,   Ent* just for own interest of who was at the address in 1901, but I do not think the street existed then. I think it would be likely to be in the civil parish of South Manchester and sub-district of Hulme.

Nearest streets given to the residents of Entwistle Street in 1911 on either side of the enumeration are: Moss Lane East and Normanby Street.These are both found on Google Maps in present day Moss Side, Manchester.

So I have not narrowed down a year and  have thought  that it must be the first week of November - only per William's birthdate on Ancestry trees.

So maybe the new series was music-related

Maybe he was sainted or scented.

Didn't you say he was religious? How do you know?