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Who was Phoebe Hill?
« on: Monday 12 October 20 16:55 BST (UK) »
Just wanted to top and tail this lady as all I currently have is her marriage to my husband's 2nd great great grandfather Joseph Fisher in Warrington RD in the 2nd qtr of 1886 (the same quarter as Joseph Fisher's first wife's death was registered in Chesterfield RD, Derbyshire).

Joseph Fisher was born and lived in Yorkshire until the 1841 census then seems to have spent the rest of his life in Derbyshire and this is him in the 1891 census:  Piece: 2766; Folio: 77; Page: 39.

I have no idea why he married for the second time in Lancashire.

Can anybody see any further information on this marriage so that I can see if Phoebe was a widow and what her father's name might have been as I can't see any history for her prior to this 1886 marriage.

Any help appreciated thanks,  Pheno




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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 October 20 17:05 BST (UK) »
She's the bride of Watson Atkinson.

Marriages Jun 1886   (>99%)
ATKINSON    Watson        Warrington    8c   219    
Fisher    Joseph        Warrington    8c   219    
HILL    Phoebe        Warrington    8c   219   
Wood    Mary        Warrington    8c   219

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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 October 20 17:10 BST (UK) »
Oh so this isn't my Joseph Fisher's marriage at all, thanks Pauline.

I was rather concerned that not only had he rushed into it but what was he doing in Lancashire.

Ok now back to the drawing board as I can't easily see a marriage between a Joseph Fisher and a Phoebe ? in Derbyshire.

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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 October 20 21:40 BST (UK) »
Marriage: 9 May 1886 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Watson Atkinson - 27, Blacksmith, Bachelor, Albert Street
Phoebe Hill - (X), 23, Spinster, 23 Guardian Street
    Groom's Father: Richard Atkinson, Blacksmith
    Bride's Father: John Hill, Iron Worker
    Witness: Albert Edward Atkinson; Margaret Jane Atkinson
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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 October 20 22:23 BST (UK) »
Marriage: 10 May 1886 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Joseph Fisher - (X), 59, Baker, Widower, King Street
Mary Wood - (X), 49, Spinster, Froghall Lane
    Groom's Father: William Fisher, Carter
    Bride's Father: David Wood, Chair Maker
    Witness: James Wood; Catherine Wood
    Married by Banns by: S. Wilkinson

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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 October 20 22:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks garstonite and lancsann for your clarification.

This is neither my Phoebe or my Joseph who married a Phoebe and not a Mary and whose father was Zephaniah.

So back to the drawing board in Derbyshire I think.

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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 October 20 22:41 BST (UK) »
I wonder was she Phoebe Torkington in 1881 married to John?

1901 as Fisher - Birthyear 1838
1891 - 1841
1881 as Torkington - 1831
1871  - 1826

John is shown as a widower in 1891 but no death for Phoebe and no marriage
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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 October 20 22:45 BST (UK) »
Living in the Chesterfield RD in 1901 - think she died 1917 aged 78
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Re: Who was Phoebe Hill?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 October 20 06:57 BST (UK) »
Look at 1881 census Paradise Row Belper

Phoebe Hunt 41 widow Cotton Factory Hand
Jane Hunt daughter 10
It's hard to say if she is a lodger or daughter of William and Mary Smith as its lined through.

GRO iNdex
Jane Hunt registered 1870 mothers maiden name is Camomile

So is Phoebe Hunt a sister or cousin to Joseph Fisher' first wife Hannah Camomile?
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Further research looks like Phebe Twigg her father William marries William Hunt 1864 his father George witness' are William Smith and Mary Ann Smith who she is living with in 1881.
So how does Jane Hunt have mothers maiden name Camomile?