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Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« on: Wednesday 14 October 20 11:16 BST (UK) »
Recommended listen - especially if you are trying to work out how Test and Trace works,

or doesn't

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000nc2r

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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 12:06 BST (UK) »
I think it was the Lancet (added or BMJ) that said England are doing more testing than any other country in Europe.

Other European countries have the same problems as we have.
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If you get people (even outside) celebrating (on TV earlier) like they were in Liverpool last night singing and shouting or protesting close-up, one infected person could infect others nearby.

BBC 27 Minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/merseyside

BBC 27 June
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-53191406

No amount of Testing will help some, if some fail to heed even the most basic Rules or Advice.

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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 12:51 BST (UK) »
Did have a chance to listen to the programme BushInn?
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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 13:11 BST (UK) »
Did have a chance to listen to the programme .....?

I listened to the first five minutes, which told me all I need to know about the incompetency, or ineptitude (or choose your own word) of the person(s) who organised the system(s).

I can't even believe how many people have been tested when I know that each person has two tests (one sample from the back of the mouth and another taken from the nose).  I hesitate to believe the figure and wonder whether I should divide it by two.
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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 15:35 BST (UK) »
I can't even believe how many people have been tested when I know that each person has two tests (one sample from the back of the mouth and another taken from the nose).  I hesitate to believe the figure and wonder whether I should divide it by two.

According to PHE there have been 25,687,164 tests done in the UK (as of 13 Oct 2020). At present they doing around 250,000 per day, so they should clock up another million every four days. I agree that is a staggeringly high number of tests - about 1 in 2.7 of the UK population. If you do have to divide by two for actual number of people tested, it's almost 20 per cent.


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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 16:46 BST (UK) »
When she made it clear she had been contacted by a Contact Tracer shortly beforehand, she was asked if she wanted to make a complaint, suggesting that there was an error here in asking the same person again.

I believed they try and contact the others direct, given by the initial contact.

UK Information Commissioner
See the paragraph Can we collect children’s contact details for contact tracing purposes?
https://ico.org.uk/global/data-protection-and-coronavirus-information-hub/coronavirus-recovery-data-protection-advice-for-organisations/collecting-customer-and-visitor-details-for-contact-tracing/#canwecollect

The ICO also says see each Country's Guidance.

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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 October 20 12:01 BST (UK) »
I think the king of farces, Brian Rix, is alive and well when we now hear that one council distributed USED test kits, which we can't blame on the Cabinet Minister Hancock who carried the Portfolio of Health Farces.
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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 October 20 16:43 BST (UK) »
I think the king of farces, Brian Rix, is alive and well when we now hear that one council distributed USED test kits, which we can't blame on the Cabinet Minister Hancock who carried the Portfolio of Health Farces.

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Re: Inside Health BBCR4 Tuesday 13th October 2020
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 October 20 20:38 BST (UK) »
I think the king of farces, Brian Rix, is alive and well when we now hear that one council distributed USED test kits, which we can't blame on the Cabinet Minister Hancock who carried the Portfolio of Health Farces.

Please warn me if one of our buffoons is going to drop their trousers, Rena. Then I can wear a facemask - over my eyes!!  ;D

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Ross, Urray:Mackenzie<br />Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell<br />Perthshire: Brown Ferguson<br />Wales: McCarthy, Thomas<br />England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells<br />Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke