Author Topic: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885  (Read 1127 times)

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Hello
I am looking for any record of the marriage of
Francis Joseph Francis b 1850 Marylebone
Occupation Compositor
Father Francis Joseph Francis Shipping Agent
To
Lois Lydia Clark b Buckden Huntingdon July 1851
Died July 1885 Lambeth

Francis Joseph subsequently married
Emily Grace Freeman in 1887 and
Georgina Skeet in 1890

Unfortunately I cannot find Francis Joseph on any census to give me an idea of location.
On the 1881 census, Lois Lydia was still unmarried and working as a servant  in Camberwell.
 
The only child of Lois Lydia and Francis Joseph was Francis George, who was born July 1885, Lambeth.
My supposition is that she died in or shortly after childbirth.

I have searched high and low with no success. There is a Francis Joseph Francis marrying a Louisa Norman in Brighton, and on first look on census it appears he is a printer, but that seems to be an error in transcribing, as I think it actually reads as painter. This particular chap, born 1851, Soho, turns up in quite a lot of census returns for Brighton as a painter. My Francis Joseph was definitely a compositor.

Here’s hoping that one of you lovely folk can help shed some light!

Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 20:33 BST (UK) »
The only Lois Lydia marriage was 1883 Poplar and her surname was Andrews & she married William Albert Sheppard
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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 20:37 BST (UK) »
Nellie d, you say he "married 3 women" do you have any evidence he actually married any of them. How have you established his approx birth year please, do you know when he died?

Thanks 

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 20:48 BST (UK) »
1901
Piece:   437
Folio:   130
Page Number:   51

Francis Francis   50 Marylebone, printer compositor
Georgina Francis   42
Francis G Francis   15 West Norwood, Surrey, clerk
Victoria M Francis   13
Emily G Francis   11
Blanche Dent   35 Canada, boarder
All others born Lambeth


1891
Piece:   418
Folio:   80
Francis Francis   40 Marylebone, printer compositor
Georgina Francis   32
Francis G Francis   5
Victoria M Francis   3
Emily G Francis   1

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Francis George Francis
Baptism 30 Mar 1890    East Brixton St Jude, Lambeth
Father:   Francis Francis occ. compositor Mother: Lois Lydia
Also baptised on the same day Victoria Maud Francis & Emily Grace Francis mother Emily Grace


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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 20:58 BST (UK) »
Nellie d, you say he "married 3 women" do you have any evidence he actually married any of them.

Francis Francis Age:   40 widower, compositor father Francis Joseph Francis, shipping agent
27 Sep 1890 St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico, London, Westminster
Spouse:   Georgina Skeet 31  father George Skeet , painter

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
Possible 1851 census

HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 726; Page: 41;

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 21:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ladyhawk.

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 22:29 BST (UK) »
Nellie d, you say he "married 3 women" do you have any evidence he actually married any of them. How have you established his approx birth year please, do you know when he died?

Thank you johnhood...some info...
 
Francis Francis
Registration Year:   1887
Registration Quarter:   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District:   Lambeth
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   1d
Page:   567
Records on Page:   
Name
Francis Francis
Emily Grace Freeman

Name:   Francis Francis
Registration Year:   1890
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District:   St George Hanover Square
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   1a
Page:   905
Records on Page:   
Name
Francis Francis
Georgina Skeet

Name:   Francis Francis
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1851
Registration Year:   1907
Registration Quarter:   Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death:   56
Registration District:   Lambeth
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   1d
Page:   294

1901 Census

Lambeth
Sub-registration District:   Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel:   17
Piece:   437
Folio:   130
Page Number:   51
Household Schedule Number:   344

1891 Census

Registration District:   Lambeth
Sub registration district:   Norwood
ED, Institution or Vessel:   12
Piece:   418
Folio:   80

I have a copy of the baptism entry of all three children. It has Lois Lydia as the mother of the son and Emily Grace for the girls. I also have my great grandads birth and marriage certs. His mother is recorded as Lois Lydia Francis ( deceased) formerly Clarke. He is down as F J Francis, Compositor and on my grandfather’s marriage cert as Francis Francis, compositor.


Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Marriage Look Up Request Francis Joseph Francis and Lois Lydia Clark 1881-1885
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 22:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you Ladyhawk.
I replied...a lengthy reply to johnhood, then went down to further entries and saw you had already answered! I am always in such a rush!  ;D
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire