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From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHiTZ PONDICK
« on: Thursday 15 October 20 21:42 BST (UK) »
 1920.new york census

 Morris PONDICK  born in Russia
Census writer  has crossed out and rewritten origin of his wife  Jennie nee LIPSHUTZ/LIPSCHITZ

It looks  like Lapland RUss....... transcribed as Russia

Some trees say shes from Poland

I think she may be from Latvian Russia like my dna match

But her father s origins clearly stated as Lithuania as.is a neighbours on the same census

.... interpretation of different European countries is wide but ive never seen Lapland described as part of Russia before
Any opinions ....what do you read ?

The couple had beeen married 43 years*   and were naturalized in 1902

*Correction sorry im not used to America census its age 45  & 43 respectively
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Re: From.lithuania Russia poland or Lapland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 October 20 22:10 BST (UK) »
Trees on Ancestry have Jennie as born 1877 alternative spellings LIFSHITZ could it also be LITVENCHICK

Also they have her  arriving in usa 1891

 marrying age 18  in 1895 New York

 I misread marriage age  *corrected

I.ll go back to look at original

1910 has them both as from Russia morris arriving 1881 & jennie 1891



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Re: From.lithuania Russia poland or Lapland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 20 23:52 BST (UK) »
Ive found Morris PONDICK s naturalization but its white on black so very difficult for me to read
It doesnt look like it mentions wife or children

I dont know how I llink match.to jeannie Lipshutz
But the surname has come up a few times in dna matches.

If she came from jacobstadt.courland.Latvia it would be a definite lead to follow

Her.mother in laws surname was Brody which.is surname of family my great grandfather lodged with when he first arrived in UK from Riga Latvia
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Re: From.lithuania Russia poland or Lapland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 October 20 01:04 BST (UK) »
On profile of Jennie Lipshiick
Several trees have a picture of a shetle in Ukraine
It's a painting by Sergei Vasikovsky
Called "a quiet evening in Poltava"

I don't know if they think/know that she's from Poltava ( now Ukraine..JT in chatterbox for the look up)

Or if there is a family connection to the painter
or if it's just an illustration of *shetel life ...
*I think it means cottage
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Re: From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHUTZ PONDICK
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 October 20 13:55 BST (UK) »
In the cloister of Iona Abbey in the Hebrides is a cubist sculpture by the Lithuanian artist Jaques Lipchitz, "The Descent of the Spirit!" might be Jewish?

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Re: From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHUTZ PONDICK
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 October 20 14:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Skoosh

I wonder how it ended up in the Hebrides

Its good to have a link.to Lithuanian

Another surname which.connetct is LITVENCHICK which I was told means of Lithuanian ...
Or could it be daughter of  LITVEN

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Re: From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHiTZ PONDICK
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Re: From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHiTZ PONDICK
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 October 20 16:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks.scoosh.
+ I like the quote that goes with.it

My matches with varieties of the Lifschitz  are all Jewish ethnicity so im guessing yes it is a Jewish name ..
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Re: From.:lithuania .Russia .Poland or Lapland ! LIPSHiTZ PONDICK
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 October 20 23:58 BST (UK) »
It looks more like Lepland than Lapland.
Latvia is known in German (also sometimes in English) as Lettland so I expect that name was written down as heard.
Rutter, Sampson, Swinerd, Head, Redman in Kent.  Others in Cheshire, Manchester, Glos/War/Worcs.
RUTTER family and Matilda Sampson's Will: