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Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 11:54 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm looking for help on Elizabeth Ward, she was my Great Great Grandmother. 
I seem to have a few choices on Ancestry of who she might have been..
Another name could be Frances Elizabeth.
Married Robert Youngs, although could be Robert Carrs Youngs.

My mum always told me there was Romani down her side of the family.  I believed her as she could read palms and tea leaves accurately herself, and had no reason to lie.  There are traits in family that are possibly connected apparently too.  But I've hit a blank.

Some very kind people have been helping me, but I am currently stuck here
I have ordered Ancestry DNA so hopefully in a few weeks can get further.

I'm also stuck on mum's father's side, totally stuck.  (Frederick John Flaaman (or Flaxman on his birth certificate) Seago, 1874-1921.  His Parents are possibly listed as John Seago/Sago (very possible)/Seage I can't get any more hints than that, and Emma or Emily for his mother. 

Any help or pointers to Romani heritage would be amazing, I have been talking to someone extremely knowledgeable and in this area but other's of you may have different info of course :) x

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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 October 20 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

As there are some uncertainties - start with what you know and work backwards.

You donít give any birthplace for Elizabeth so have you found her & Robert on any census entry after their marriage?

March qtr 1866
Robert Youngs/Elizabeth Ward    Loddon  4b 346

1871 for Norfolk - all b Aldeby except Elizabeth

Robert Youngs 29
Elizabeth 38 b Hedenham
James 5
Elizabeth 3
Robert 1
Ellen 1mth
George Ward 19 boarder
Anna Ward 15 boarder
RG10/1830/19/14
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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 20 12:38 BST (UK) »
  I came up with the same as above....but to push it back...

  Anna Ward birth 1856 mmn DODMAN

 Elizabeth DODMAN married George WARD  in Loddon district 1849.

 Elizabeth DODMAN baptised 1832 Hedenham 28 Oct father Robert a footman mother Elizabeth.

 So 2 marriages?

 Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 October 20 15:39 BST (UK) »
The 1866 marriage gives her father as Robert Dodman labourer and confirms Elizabeth as a widow.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 20 15:48 BST (UK) »
1851

Elizabeth Ward 60
George Ward 24 son
Elizabeth Ward 20 wife
William Ward 1 grandson

1861

George Ward 36
Elizabeth Ward 29
William 11
George 9
Clara 8
Anne 6
female infant 1 month
Elizabeth Dodman 55 mother in law

Burial for George Ward (husband) 24 Aug 1862 Aldeby
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 20 16:24 BST (UK) »
Marriages Dec qtr 1849

Elizabeth Dodman/George Ward. -   Loddon 13 533
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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 October 20 16:34 BST (UK) »
1841 census - Robert was an agricultural labourer

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7SM-C6R

From the available info so far - there does not appear to be any obvious Romany connections
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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 October 20 17:28 BST (UK) »
Her parents marriage

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXXP-FJZ

Her grandmother Elizabeth Abraham is in the household in 1841
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Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 October 20 19:39 BST (UK) »
Wow, thank you everyone so much, I will work through all these, I am stuck as to where my Romany lies but will keep looking, and maybe the DNA will show in a few weeks.  Either way, this is all amazing information, to know my ancestry is extremely important to me at the moment for some reason. xx