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Sam Smith
« on: Sunday 18 October 20 00:48 BST (UK) »
Evening everyone,

Hope you can help.

I am looking for someone called “Sam Smith”

Apparently he died in/near Hythe between 1960-1975
A family member remembers going to the funeral with her mother.

I have looked everyone and just coming to a brick wall.

He might have had two children
Jean and Peggy (Who apparently run off with her boss Ron Richardson, this apparently made national newspaper but again brick wall)

Sam had a sister called Eva smith and due to something or other they was separated.
Mum was leonora smith nee Carmichael
Sam was born in London I believe

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 October 20 04:57 BST (UK) »
I can't find Sam (yet) however, Eva Selina Frances SMITH birth registered St Olive Southwark (1d/201) March qtr 1891, mother's maiden name CARMICHAEL. She married Frederick Frank BOWDEN in 1912 at St Mary, Newington and says father's name was William, a dockworker.

This tallies with Leonora Ann CARMICHAEL married William John C SMITH at Lambeth (1d/591) March qtr 1888.

Other possible children:
Herbert William Mar qtr 1890 (Lambeth 1d/539)
Florence Cook Dec qtr 1893 (Camberwell 1d/861) [died Poplar 1c/127, Jun qtr 1895]
Horace John Mar qtr 1897 (Poplar 1c/691)

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 October 20 05:44 BST (UK) »
Another possible child (I suspect is Leonora not Leonard, is female according to GRO)

SMITH, LEONARD  JANE     CARMICHAEL 
1888  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 528

Baptism 11 July 1888
Father William John a Machinist. Mother Leonora
Address 156 Ferndale Road, Brixton
currently concentrating on a number of Staffordshire families.


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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 20 05:50 BST (UK) »
Eva Selina Frances  baptism 26 Jan 1898 same church as Leonora Jane

Address 1 Elliot Rd
William is a plumber
currently concentrating on a number of Staffordshire families.

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 October 20 06:07 BST (UK) »
Herbert William Smith 1890

Had, according to a tree on Ancestry 4 children, one of whom was Margaret (Peggy?) Edna May
another who was Jeanne Patrica Ruth.

So perhaps Herbert = Sam?
Death 1978 Shepway, (again according to the tree)
currently concentrating on a number of Staffordshire families.

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 October 20 06:28 BST (UK) »
Well done Mckha, that does look possible. They are hard to find on the censuses!

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 20 07:08 BST (UK) »
We cannot give details of 1939 register on rootschat, but it is worth looking for Margaret on it.
Her dob given on the tree was 30 Oct 1919
currently concentrating on a number of Staffordshire families.

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Re: Sam Smith
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 October 20 20:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your help. I’m gonna do some more investigating