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Martha Redfearn 1877
« on: Sunday 18 October 20 14:02 BST (UK) »
Hi, hoping someone could confirm the following as wanting to do a family tree Xmas present.

Albert Norbury was born 16th june1921, Lancashire.  Tho on 1939 census his date of birth appears as 18th June, not 16th June.  I believe his mother to be Martha Redfearn July 1877 from bakewell, Derbyshire. 

At first I believed her parents to be Samuel redfearn and Elizabeth Turner.  However I realised on her marriage bans to James Norbury her dad is listed as Joel Redfearn, farmer.  There is a Joel redfearn 1844/5 born to Joseph redfearn and Mary Newton.  However there's been a transcription error on the gro which reads as TOD not Joel.  I have found Baptism records stating Joel in Derbyshire.  However there's two, one in November and another several months earlier.  Parents are the same names so unsure why two different records.  Joel Norbury married a Harriet Gregory.  There is a Martha Redfearn on GRO 1877 mmn Gregory but there is two other Martha Redfearn, from bakewell around the time this Martha was born.  One being to Elizabeth Turner who married Samuel Redfearn.

I couldn't check gro for Albert Norburys mmn as it doesn't show for 1921 but an Albert Norbury is listed with Martha on 1939 census.

Would be really helpful to have confirmation that Martha's parents are Joel and Harriet Gregory if anyone can help. 

The only thing that puzzles me is Martha is not on the 1881 census with her parents??

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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:40 BST (UK) »
Birth Index for Albert Norbury
West Derbyshire Lancashire
Registered July--Sept 1921
Mothers maiden name Redfern

This could be a possibility  why you couldn't find Martha on the 1881 census
There is this family at 81 ,Houghton Street Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire
John Bocking age 50 born Abney Derbyshire
Martha A Bocking age 38 born Windmill Derbyshire wife
Oswald Redfearn age 28 born Windmill Deryshire brother in law
Mary A Redfearn age 16 born Great Hucklow niece
Martha Redfearn age 3 born Great Hucklow niece

Rosie

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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:44 BST (UK) »
Martha's full birthdate is on the 1939 register and her birthplace is shown in 1911.  She married in Liverpool

per freebmd

Martha Redfearn September qtr 1877 Bakewell 7b 731  mmn Gregory

Marriage 1866 - Joel Redfearn & Harriet Gregory
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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:47 BST (UK) »
Marriage for Martha Ann Redfearn age 20 father Joseph Redfearn farmer residence at time Windmill
Spouse John Bocking age 28 miner father Joseph Bocking also farmer residence at time Abney
Witnesses Samuel and Sussanah Newton
Marriage date 20 September 1862 Hope Derbyshire

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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
1871 for Gt Hucklow indexed as Redfern.  All b Gt Hucklow except Joel

Joel 26 b Windmill lead miner
Harriet 22
Mary Ann 5
Sarah Ellen 4
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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:57 BST (UK) »
On the 1861 census District Bakewell you will find that John Bocking is with the family as a lodger
Joseph Redfearn and Mary Newton so that is the line I would follow ..
The other Martha Harriet Redfearn with the parents Samuel and Elizabeth married a Frederick Ashmore

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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:59 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 1903 marriage cert for James Norbury & Martha - father is Joel but he is a farmer & deceased
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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 October 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Joel.Redfearn 1894 Ecllesall Bierlow
Age 49 years

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Re: Martha Redfearn 1877
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 October 20 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie thanks for this.  There is also a grave picture with John Bocking on, but underneath joel, Sarah Ellen and another Redfearn is listed.  So Martha A is a redfearn?? 

quote author=rosie17 link=topic=838887.msg7045908#msg7045908 date=1603032049]
Birth Index for Albert Norbury
West Derbyshire Lancashire
Registered July--Sept 1921
Mothers maiden name Redfern

This could be a possibility  why you couldn't find Martha on the 1881 census
There is this family at 81 ,Houghton Street Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire
John Bocking age 50 born Abney Derbyshire
Martha A Bocking age 38 born Windmill Derbyshire wife
Oswald Redfearn age 28 born Windmill Deryshire brother in law
Mary A Redfearn age 16 born Great Hucklow niece
Martha Redfearn age 3 born Great Hucklow niece

Rosie
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