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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 20:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you Arthurís but she was born in Birmingham.

Osprey - good find but would need more details to be sure

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 20:10 BST (UK) »
Thereís an Evan Matthew James who dies in 1921 registered Pontypridd.

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 20:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you Arthurís but she was born in Birmingham.

I know you said that about Doris, but I'm wondering if they moved to Aberystwyth and had another daughter there. (Note that the one I found was Gertrude, not Doris!) If these entries are from your family, it could explain what happened to Elizabeth.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 10:51 BST (UK) »
It might or might not be relevant, but there's a birth of a Gertrude May James (mmn Russell) in Aberystwyth in Dec qtr 1905.

She seems to have died in the same quarter, and so did an Elizabeth James, aged 30, with the same reference number.

Elizabeth and Gertrude do appear to have been a mother and daughter: the Aberystwyth cemetery database shows that Elizabeth was buried on 22 Oct 1905 and Gertrude on 23 Oct 1905, and both died at 3 Cambrian Court.

The database shows 3 other burials in the same grave: Elizabeth Bonnor (1902), Jospeh (sic - presumably Joseph) James (1917) and Janie James (1947). You can get fuller details of these at

http://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/resident/births-deaths-marriages-civil-partnerships/cemeteries/search-the-cemetery-database/
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 17:57 BST (UK) »
Yes, Arthur. I see where youíre coming from. Joseph died in 1933 but I believe Jane died in 1947. I have no idea who Elizabeth Bonner is.

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 19:56 BST (UK) »
the address on those burials looks to be a match for where the James family were living for the 1901 census, 3 Cambrian Gardens, Cambrian Place.

The Evan M whose death was registered in 1921 at Pontypridd isn't a match as his initial M was for Morgan. Evan Morgan James aged 43 was buried 19 March 1921 in Abercynon, address 17 Gertrude Street.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 November 20 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you ArthurK - I now have Elizabeth and Gertrude's death certificates. This is my great grandmother and she died of heart failure in October 1905. Gertrude died two days later aged 4 days.

I have no idea what happened to Evan after this. I'd like to see if the Evan Mathew James listed in the newspaper is in fact my great grandfather. He would have been around 36 at the outbreak of WW2. Being a blacksmith, I assume he would've been attached to a cavalry regiment?

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Re: Evan and Elizabeth James
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 19 November 20 18:23 GMT (UK) »
*WW1