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Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« on: Wednesday 21 October 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
On a Catholic marriage record I'm looking at in the "denuntiationes" column (which is for impediments to the marriage) it says "Vic For." I have gotten as far as figuring out this means Vicarius Foraneus, or Vicar-Forane, but I have no idea what this might signify about the marriage. Any ideas?

This is for the 8 Jan 1879 marriage of Cornelius Mahony of Coolkeragh to Johanna Stack in Ballybunion, Kerry.

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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 22:17 BST (UK) »
Searching gave this . . . . .     

"Senior  member,  in  length  of  service,  of  any  profession,  field,  etc.."     

I would take it as the "rank" of the clergy involved.     

However . . . . .
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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 20 22:45 BST (UK) »
Juridical Manifestations of the Presbyterium

The link below describes the offices of different types of priest:
The Vicar Forane and Episcopal Vicar
The Parish Pastor
The Parochial Vicar

http://frcoulter.com/presentations/presbyterium/chapter3.html


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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 October 20 02:02 BST (UK) »
A diocesan bishop may delegate the power to dispense certain impediments to a vicar forane.  I would take this notation to mean that a dispensation was obtained from the V.F.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island (LI); CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; EDWARDS Wex; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE LI; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wex; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wex

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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 20 07:08 BST (UK) »
Are you sure it's a V, not a L. [lic. instead of vic.]
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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 20 07:43 BST (UK) »
Are you sure it's a V, not a L. [lic. instead of vic.]

Well, it sure looks like V rather than L. But apart from that, what license would there be?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island (LI); CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; EDWARDS Wex; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE LI; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wex; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wex

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Re: Any idea what "vic for" signifies on a marriage record?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 October 20 10:57 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to the image: https://imgur.com/a/LUFH8by

Looking at the nearby pages, it looks like other marriages marked with "Vic For" in the "Denuntiationes" column had notes about consanguinity written in the "Impedimentum" column. For this marriage, there's a - in the impedimentum column. So I wonder if that means that this marriage did not have an issue related to consanguinity but something else relating to banns, etc.