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Adoption in 1950s
« on: Thursday 22 October 20 14:40 BST (UK) »
If someone was born in 1940s to a single mother who later married another man and he adopted you when you were about 10 so that you have the same surname as your siblings. Would you be able to obtain any details of that adoption such as names of birth parents? If so, where would be the best place to try and obtain these details?

I'm trying to help an ex-pat relative lay a ghost from her past to rest. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 October 20 14:43 BST (UK) »
This might be useful background reading:

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 November 20 15:15 GMT (UK) »
If you knew the birth name you would be able to search for the birth in the index and send for the cert BUT based on the details you have given the birth is of an illegitimate child so the father wouldn't be named on it.


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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 November 20 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Glen, the birth name should be the same as the mother, my husband's aunt but his cousin remembers being told that her father was not her real dad and being taken to court where both her mum and her step father had to adopt her so she believes that her mum wasn't her real mum too. She is 78 now and has lived in Australia since the 1970s so trying to find anything out is very difficult for her and she has asked me to help. I'm not sure I can find out anything that shew doesn't already know. :(
Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.


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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 November 20 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried the link I gave?
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 November 20 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Glen, the birth name should be the same as the mother, my husband's aunt but his cousin remembers being told that her father was not her real dad and being taken to court where both her mum and her step father had to adopt her so she believes that her mum wasn't her real mum too. She is 78 now and has lived in Australia since the 1970s so trying to find anything out is very difficult for her and she has asked me to help. I'm not sure I can find out anything that shew doesn't already know. :(

Her birth mother would have also had to adopt her because if not the adoptive father would have become her only legal guardian leaving her birth mother without any legal rights. This happened to a friend of mine in the 1960's in Australia and I think it would be the same in the UK.

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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 November 20 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Dna tests can give clue to fathers line tho not necessarily identify the man himself

It would also.prove or disprove whether she came from same maternal line as her half /adopted siblings  (im sure she does )
 If one of them or a niece/ nephew/ cousin from the known line would test too
 Any  different high matches would show people who match.the birth father

Its quite expensive but sending for two tests at once reduces postal cost .



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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 November 20 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Please re assure your friend that her Mother would be her natural Mother. It was the law that if a new husband wished to adopt her child , they both had to adopt even though the child was her own.

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Re: Adoption in 1950s
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 November 20 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Could you give a link to the law, as I was trying to find it yesterday to make sure what I believed was correct, and was obviously searching using the wrong terms?