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Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« on: Friday 23 October 20 13:53 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find info about my ancestor Patrick Cullen and his family. Here is what I know: He was born 1786, Sligo (from his Cert of Freedom) and his parents were William Cullen (farmer) and Honora Gaffeney (from his death cert). He married Margaret Curren (I believe in 1810, Drumshambo, but I don’t have a primary source for this). They lived in Kilmactranny and had 10 children (5 boys, 5 girls). In 1837 he was convicted of stealing and transported to Australia. I have found information about his trial and about his life in Australia, and I have also have information about 5 of his children who followed their father to Australia. They are Phillip (born 1816), Ellen Mary (1818), Thomas (possibly with second name Bernard) (1824), Dominic (1826) and Bridget (1828). Thomas was born in Ballynacheagh, Sligo (immigration record) and another place name that comes up in ancestry family trees is Glenkillamy (or Lankillamy?).
I have not been able to find any Irish birth, death or marriage info for Patrick and his children. Can anyone help? Or perhaps direct me to the most useful website for Sligo records?

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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 October 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
If it is this Drumshambo then there are no surviving Catholic church records before the 1860s.

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0163

https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0163&parish=Murhan

It doesn't look like there are any for Kilmactranny either.

https://www.johngrenham.com/records/church.php?civilparishid=2110&civilparish=Kilmactranny&search_type=full

Debra  :)

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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 October 20 14:26 BST (UK) »
I see a Pat Cullen listed as having land in Glan Ballynashee in the tithes for 1825.  Ballynashee looks a close fit for your Ballynacheagh.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Sligo&townland=Ballynashee&parish=Kilmactranny&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=20

There was a John Cullen farming there too.

Unfortunately that RC parish (Geevagh) only has records from 1851 onwards so you won’t find your Cullen family’s baptisms or marriage if that’s where they originate.

There was still a Cullen farm there in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Ballynashee/Ballynashee/1673597/
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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 October 20 03:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you Debra and Elwyn. It looks like I will never know the details of Pat's other children. I think its likely that the John Cullen that Elwyn found in the Tithe Applotments was Pat's brother and the John Cullen farming there in 1901 is the right age to be the grandson of either Pat or John. And now I understand that Ballynashee is a location in the Parish of Kilmacatranny. Irish place names cause me a lot of confusion  :) Thanks again!


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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 October 20 09:26 BST (UK) »
And now I understand that Ballynashee is a location in the Parish of Kilmacatranny. Irish place names cause me a lot of confusion  :)

Ballynashee townland in Kilmactranny civil parish, Co Sligo is 14km NW of the small town of Drumshanbo, Co Leitrim.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4249517#map=12/54.0716/-8.0619
Note that the county of Roscommon is situated between them and goes all the way up to Lough Allen.

A good website to find all the townlands, parishes etc superimposed on a current map is this one. It also has a link to OpenStreetMap.
https://www.townlands.ie/

KG


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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 October 20 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you KG. Those websites will be very useful!

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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 February 22 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Henrietta I realise this is an old post, I have the information you are looking for, not my own work but everything you are asking for is very well documented down to his living ancestors now. What is your connection?

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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 February 22 07:45 GMT (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat, Gerry  :)

The OP (henrietta165), if her email notifications are still working, should reply hopefully to your post. She was last online here in October last year.

Good luck!  :D

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Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 February 22 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes, my email notifications are still working and here I am  :). Lovely to hear from you Gerry. Patrick was my 3 greats grandfather. Patrick, his son Thomas (1824-1906), his son Thomas John (1855-1943), his daughter Claudia Sarah(1891-1932). Claudia was my grandmother. Are you a relative? I would love to get some information about Patrick's children who didn't move to Australia.