William Phillips

[Ladyhawk]

John Coldicott Age:   25
Marriage 21 Nov 1857 Ilmington, Warwickshire
Spouse:   Wince Johnson
Father:   William Coldicott, blacksmith

I don’t know if there’s a connection here to Emma Phillips witness to William’s marriage

1871 census Piece:   3215 Folio:   131 Page Number:   5
John Fairbrother   43
Emma Fairbrother   45 Ebrington Gloucestershire
Wiliam Fairbrother   17
Charles Fairbrother   15
Frederick Fairbrother   12
Jamal Fairbrother   10
Albert Fairbrother   7
Ann Fairbrother   5
Bertram Fairbrother   1
Sarah BOSLEY 67 Ebrington Gloucestershire , visitor, widow

John Fairborough married Emma Phillips

Emma Phillips married 20 Jun 1850 Ebrington, Gloucestershire
Father:   John Phillips, labourer
Spouse:   John Fairbrothers

[Ladyhawk]

1841 Erbington Mill Piece:   360 Folio:   12 Page 19
John Philips   60 Ag lab.
Emma Philips   15

Emma Phillips
Baptism    18 Jan 1825   Ebrington, Gloucestershire
Father:   John Phillips, labourer Mother:   Mary, Erbington Mill

[suzard]

[quote author=Ladyhawk link=topic=839142.msg7049124#msg7049124 date=1603491939ith

I don’t know if there’s a connection here to Emma Phillips witness to William’s marriage

1871 census Piece:   3215 Folio:   131 Page Number:   5
John Fairbrother   43
Emma Fairbrother   45 Ebrington Gloucestershire
Wiliam Fairbrother   17
Charles Fairbrother   15
Frederick Fairbrother   12
Jamal Fairbrother   10
Albert Fairbrother   7
Ann Fairbrother   5
Bertram Fairbrother   1
Sarah BOSLEY 67 Ebrington Gloucestershire , visitor, widow

John Fairborough married Emma Phillips

Emma Phillips married 20 Jun 1850 Ebrington, Gloucestershire
Father:   John Phillips, labourer
Spouse:   John Fairbrothers



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this looks really good -so William's Aunt Emma would be the witness at William's marriage -which makes sense as William was 19 he would need an adult relative

Baptisms (haven't found William or Emma's yet

Baptisms Ebrington
all to parents William and Sarah Caldicott - William's occupation Blacksmith
all in name Caldicott
Mary Ann 3 May 1830
John 22 Jan 1832
Thhomas

possible death reg for William Caldicott Jun qtr 1842 Shipston on Soar

there are baptisms for Sarah Phillips with father John both at Ebrington
Sarah Phillips b 13 Dec 1804 parents John &  Susannah
Sarah Phillips b 19 Aug 1894 parents John & Mary

Possibly Sarah with parents John and Mary is the one we are seeking - as she named her daghter Mary (ann)

Suz

[Ladyhawk]

Is this Williams wife on 1851 census

Piece:   2074 Folio:   83 Page Number:   13
Hariet Philips   30 mar blacksmith
William Philips   5
Emma Philips   2
All born Eatington, Warwickshire

Emma Elizabeth Phillips
William Richard Phillips
Baptism 19 Nov 1848
Baptism Place:   Ettington, Warwickshire
Father:   William Phillips blacksmith Mother:   Harriet

Emma Elizabeth Phillips
Marriage 17 Dec 1872   Ettington, Warwickshire
Spouse:   Harvey Gatfield
Father:   William Phillips, blacksmith
One witness Hannah Phillips

William Phillips Age:   30
Marriage 25 Nov 1877 Bordesley, St Andrew, Warwickshire
Father:   William Phillips, blacksmith
Spouse:   Amelia Lycod
witnesses H? & Emma Garfield

[Diggory Venn]

Thanks again, you've given me so much information.  It's beginning to look as if William Philips was a child, before marriage, of Sarah Phillips - and either William Caldecott was his biological father anyway, or he became his father in practical terms after they married.  Ebrington, Blockley and Chipping Campden are very close to each other, and not far from Ettington (Eatington).

My interest is in William Phillips' marriage to Harriett Wilkins. Harriett was my wife's granny's granny.  I think I can be fairly sure of William's parentage from what you've all discovered for me, thanks, and I'd now like to find out when William died - my impression is that he was working away from home at the time of the 1851 census, but deceased by the time of the 1861 census.  But there are so many deaths of that name listed on Familysearch and FreeBMD that it's hard to find the right one.

I'm so grateful for everyone's help, I always get to learn more when I try Rootschat with a problem.

Cheers,

Bill

[Ladyhawk]

Here is William Phillips on 1851 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZP-R1T
Thomas Fisher   Head   55   Campden, Gloucestershire
Mary Fisher   Wife   60   Farnham, Surrey
William Phillips   Lodger   married   25   Campden, Gloucestershire, working blacksmith

[Diggory Venn]

Thanks, Ladyhawk, yes I'm now pretty sure that's him.  His wife was at home in Eatington, he was presumably working away.

So he must have died between 1851 and 1861, when she was recorded as a widow.

Cheers,

Bill

[Ladyhawk]

Is this Harriet noted as a widow 1881c not sure about 1871/61

1881 Piece:   3098 Folio:   44 Page Number:   11
Thomas Wilkins   49
Harriet Phillips   sister 65 Eatington, Warwickshire
Arthur Phillips nephew   8
Beatrice Phillips niece    6

1871 Piece:   3203 Folio:   44 Page Number:   10
Harriet Phillips   54 dressmaker
William Phillips   24 son
Hannah Phillips   18 dau
Thomas Wilkins   40 brother
Al born Eatington Warwickshire

1861 Piece:   2228 Folio:   42 Page Number:   10
Harriett Phillips   44 Eatington, Warwickshire
Hannah Phillips   daughter 8 Eatington, Warwickshire

If Harriet is a widow in 1861 and daughter Hannah born c 1853
Looking for a possible death for William after 1853 before 1861 census

[Ladyhawk]

There are a lot of deaths on FreeBMD in Warwickshire for persons named William Phillips

If you find one that you think could be your William you can cross reference using GRO indexes as that will give you an age https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp