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Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« on: Friday 23 October 20 21:12 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to locate birth date and location for 2x great grandmother born in Ireland 1832 according to Canada census records and her death certificate in Canada.  Marriage record shows her as Eleanor Murphy, but death certificate in 1911 says father's surname was Ross and mother's was Fair.   She married Robert Lytle in Ontario in 1848.  No idea where she came from in Ireland. 
Found Eleanor Ross in Galway, RC (mother's surname is Murphy), but Robert Lytle (origin - C. Fermanagh) and family all recorded as Church of England on census records. Why would she put Murphy as surname in 1848 if she later said it was Ross?  Also found record for 1832 Eleanor Ross in Clogher, C. Monaghan, but no Murphy on record.  Which Eleanor is most likely the one?
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Ross
Murphy
Kent

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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 October 20 21:19 BST (UK) »
Who was the information on her death certificate? perhaps they gave incorrect information or perhaps mother was married twice/one surname was her married name.
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 October 20 21:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks aghadowey,
The informant on death certificate was son-in-law.  Hearsay passed down was that she was called Eleanor Lytle Ross.  She was 16 when married, Robert died in 1859 and she never remarried according to all the census records.
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 October 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
When I said perhaps mother was married more than once I meant Eleanor's mother (she could have been known by her father's surname and stepfather's).
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 October 20 21:44 BST (UK) »
Sorry I missed your meaning.  I suppose that's a possibility.  I'd need to search more along those lines.  I just don't see how there would be 3 possible maiden surnames: Ross, Murphy and Fair, and yet the few records that I have found show all those as possibilities.  Confusing!
Little/Lytle
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 October 20 22:03 BST (UK) »
An online tree has Eleanor's father as a William Ross from Galway with 2 wives- Eleanor Murphy & ? Fair. My or may not be correct or the family you are looking for.
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 October 20 22:39 BST (UK) »
Wow, I'd like to look at that one.  Could you pm me as to where you found it please?
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Murphy
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 October 20 22:42 BST (UK) »
It was on Ancestry- think it came up when searching for Eleanor Lytle in Ontario born 1830. Was trying to find her in 1901 census to see exact date of birth given but think I couldn't find her there.
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Re: Searching for Eleanor (Ellen) Murphy or Ross born 1832 in Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 October 20 22:59 BST (UK) »
As it turns out, that is my own record on Ancestry, and the second wife was just a guess.  :)
Thanks for taking the time to try to help me out.  I'll just keep plugging away and hope for a break-through.
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Murphy
Kent