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Can you find the connection?
« on: Saturday 24 October 20 20:20 BST (UK) »
I am so close to finding a dna connection but I can't find that final piece of the puzzle. Hoping you wonderful people can help  ;D

Thomas Macnay married Alice Waggett 1809 Newcastle-upon-Tyne
son Thomas is my ancestor
son Joseph (1826 Wallsend) is an ancestor of a dna match received today

1851 census for son Joseph Macnay:
Piece 2392 Folio 440 Page 41

on this census there is an Alice Laws (9) and I'm wondering if Alice is sister to Ann Laws who is on the tree of an unknown match.

Ann Laws married Anthony Parkin in 1857 Durham

I was wondering if:

Alice and Ann are siblings?
Alice is Joseph's niece?
Joseph has a sibling who married a Laws?

Thankyou  :)

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 October 20 00:17 BST (UK) »
Personally, I think links to census' are far easier for others when helping.

Can you please list all in the household in 1851 with their details & relationship to Head?

Have you found all in 1841 which may help with discovering more about relationships & have you found the birth for Alice Laws?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 October 20 00:39 BST (UK) »
1851 census for son Joseph Macnay: Piece 2392 Folio 440 Page 41

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBR-P5X

Christening of Joseph: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:C6B9-692M

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams


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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 October 20 00:49 BST (UK) »
information for Joseph Macnay

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/9KVG-CDC

dna match has parents of Ann Laws (born c1837) as Thomas Laws and Dorothy Smith.

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 October 20 01:35 BST (UK) »
Joseph’s wife was Mary née Jackson:

Dec 1845 Chester le St 24 34
MCNAY Joseph
JACKSON Mary

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5R5-QZ2

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-ZHXY

MACNAY, ELIZABETH  ALICE mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 24  Page 124

MCNAY, BESSEY mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 24  Page 157

MCNAY, THOMAS mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 10A  Page 213

MCNAY, SARAH  ANN mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 10A  Page 234

MACNAY, LIDDELL mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in STOCKTON  Volume 10A  Page 99

MACNAY, JOSEPH mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in STOCKTON  Volume 10A  Page 88
Death:
MACNAY, JOSEPH  3 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in AUCKLAND  Volume 10A  Page 110

MACNAY, ISABEL mmn JACKSON 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in AUCKLAND  Volume 10A  Page 209

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 October 20 01:54 BST (UK) »
I have this information but thankyou for looking - it is a connection of Ann/Alice Laws to the Macnays that I am looking for.

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 October 20 01:58 BST (UK) »
Alice is a servant on the 1851 census. So, why do you think she is relative of the MacNays?

1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBJ-RLX

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJT-T7G

Christening of Thomas: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWNS-L6R

Possible death of Dorothy:

LAWS, DOROTHY  37 
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 60

Possible death of Thomas:

LAWS, THOMAS  65 
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 10A  Page 224

Children:

LAWS, MATTHEW mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 63

LAWS, FRANCES mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 73

LAWS, SARAH mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 93

LAWS, WILLIAM mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1845  S Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 81

LAWS, THOMAS  LAWS mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1848  M Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 95

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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 October 20 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Census  1851   @ Haswell  Durham
McNAY Joseph     head  25y  coal miner   b. North Wallsend Northumberland
McNay Mary        wife    26y                   b. Hebron Durham
McNAY Alace                   3y                   b. Haswell Durham
McNAY Elizabeth              2y                  b. Haswell Durham
McNAY William                4m                  b. Haswell Durham
LAWS Alace        servant  9y                   b. Wrekenton Durham

Look for a LAWS / McNAY / JACKSON born Wrekenton, Durham ....in earlier/later Census...also marriages for these family name combinations....to account for Alice LAWS.

Using GRO I am not seeing birth for Alice LAWS.   Where is Alice in Census 1861?


Is this the 1857 marriage? I am not seeing a PARKIN marriage.

What do you see on this document? -

FreeBDM   SepQ 1857  Durham  VoL 10a   page 307

Ann  LAWS mar. Anthony PARKER

....church...names...dates...occupations...witesses....place names.....


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Re: Can you find the connection?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 October 20 01:39 GMT (UK) »
Using GRO I am not seeing birth for Alice LAWS.   Where is Alice in Census 1861?

Me neither. I wonder if she is Frances?

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams