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Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« on: Sunday 25 October 20 10:37 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on my great grandmother Julia Roberts, born 1848 (Dowlais) and died 1881(Pembrokeshire). I cannot find a record of her prior to 1873 when she married Enos Davies in Merthyr Tydfil.  Her address at that time was Balaclava Road, Dowlais. Her father is David Roberts stated on her marriage certificate. An 1881 census states that she was born in Dowlais, Glamorgan. I have been unable to find a birth record or a census as a child. There is an 1871 census with a Julia Roberts living in East Street, Merthyr who was a servant but birth was North Wales. She had 3 children with Enos, the first Margaret Anne born in Aberdare and Mary Elizabeth (my gran) and Julia Edith born in Penrhiw, Manordeifi, Pembroke. I have tried all Wales and only 3 births come up. I have ruled 2 out as the father does not match. The other one is born in Machynlleth. I can only conclude that either she was not born in Wales or had a different surname?   Any information or tips on how to progress would be appreciated.

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 October 20 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

Possible birth registrations showing mmn Roberts   :-\

DAVIES, MARGARET  ANN     mmn ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1875  June Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 532

DAVIES, MARY  ELIZABETH     mmn ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1878  Sept Quarter in CARDIGAN  Volume 11B  Page 12

DAVIES, JULIA  EDITH     mmn ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1880  Sept Quarter in CARDIGAN  Volume 11B  Page 15

ADDED  Also another daughter who was baptised the same day as Margaret
DAVIES, ESTHER  JANE     mmn ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1875  June Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 532
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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 October 20 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to the marriage.  What was he fathers occupation.   

The 1871 census you found looks like her, maybe the place of birth got mixed up with the other servant  :-\

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 October 20 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Waw, that is interesting to see there was another daughter.  Possibly died in infancy.  I believe the father's occupation was a quarryman.  There is no more info on him.Thanks so much for your help.


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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 October 20 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Sorry forgot to say the witnesses were John Morgan and John Hall. Thanks

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 October 20 18:44 GMT (UK) »
She is in 20 trees on Ancestry, but I don't think any of them has found her before her marriage.

One tree has various poor law records for her, and then, after her death, criminal records for him.

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 October 20 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, there is Julia Evans aged 12 shown as Grandaughter to a David Roberts?
1861 census RG09/4062/65/26
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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 October 20 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, still shown as Julia Evans aged 2 b Llandovery, Montgomeryshire, shown as Grandaughter with same family.
1851 census HO107/2459/377/43
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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 October 20 20:16 GMT (UK) »
I've been trying to work out that Montgomeryshire place name, transcribed as Llandovery but that is in Carmarthenshire. The 1861 place of birth looks like Llanwryd possible. There is a Llanywared.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb