Author Topic: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil  (Read 495 times)

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 October 20 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, I am on ancestry and looks like others also having same problem.  Interesting that the grandfather on 1861 census is a quarryman, same as Julia stated her father was but I suppose there would be a lot in that area.  Do you think she could have taken her grandfather's surname later on?? Would that be usual?? Thanks for all the help, I am a novice at this.

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 October 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi their is a birth registration of a JULIAH Roberts Dec qtr 1848 Mychynlleth no mmn?
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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 October 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
not unusual to give the name of her grandfather on her marriage. She may have been brought up to thinking he was her father.

The Machynlleth registration for Juliah Roberts has no mother's maiden name so an illegitimate birth. From North Wales bmd, the birth was in the Darowen subdistrict.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 October 20 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Can I ask where do you all get information such as mmn?  I only ever get the child's name and birth?


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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 October 20 21:29 GMT (UK) »
if you use the GRO index, on the same site that you use to order certificates,

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

you can check for mother's maiden name in the years before it appears on FreeBmd. Also age at death before it is shown on transcriptions.

I've been looking for the children of David & Jane to see who might be the mother of Julia. There are baptisms in Vaynor to David, quarryman, & Jane Roberts for
Mary 4 July 1833
Robert 24 Feb 1839
Jane 27 July 1841
Elizabeth 18 July 1844 possible burial aged 15 months 16 July 1845
David 22 Dec 1851

Marriage in Vaynor parish church 14 Oct 1854 by certificate (not banns)
John Jones 28 bach quarryman Garn Vaynor father Rees Jones deceased
Ann Roberts 24 spinster Ponsticill father David Roberts quarryman
witnesses David Roberts & Jane Roberts, all marked.

Possible baptism for Anne in Llanwrin, Montgomeryshire 19 Dec 1830 illegitmate daughter of David Roberts, labourer of Merthyr Tydfil, and Jane Jones, servant of Llanwrin.

Marriage in Vaynor 16 Feb 1833 for David Roberts & Jane Jones, witnesses William Jones & Gwenllian Jones, all marked. 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 October 20 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for that information.  I take it that Vaynor is around the Merthyr area.  It all sounds feasible.  So do you mainly use the Free BMD site for your info, you seem to be able to gather a lot of information? That would take me days.

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 October 20 22:22 GMT (UK) »
the parish entries are on Findmypast. Vaynor isn't far from Merthyr Tydfil.


https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/YFaenor
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 October 20 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Is this  your Enos' criminal history? Look like your gran is mentioned

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3061520/3061522/8/


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Re: Julia Roberts Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #17 on: Monday 26 October 20 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for the info. I intend spending today following the leads.  Yes I had heard about Enos and Margaret's past.