Mary ? - married to a Joseph Slee

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Have you considered Mary Owens who Joseph is lodging with in 1841 may be Carolines Mother?

It may be worth looking at 1851 Census to see if she is still in Swansea or her children.

Trish

But isn't Mary in Jersey with Caroline and Joseph in 1851?

[Daffern2020]

Have you considered Mary Owens who Joseph is lodging with in 1841 may be Carolines Mother?

It may be worth looking at 1851 Census to see if she is still in Swansea or her children.

Trish

But isn't Mary in Jersey with Caroline and Joseph in 1851?

I believe it's the idea that if I can find a Mary Owens and her kids in the 1851 census - in Swansea. Then that discounts her as being Joseph's Mary. If not, then maybe it's looking like he met Mary with her two kids in Swansea, stayed with her. Then when her kids aged up, they married and moved to the Channel Islands and had Caroline.

Joseph seems to have moved around a lot: Devon to Wales to St Helier to Hampshire to St Anne - haven't found his death yet. I wonder if this is typical of Stone Masons?

[osprey]

think this is Owen Owens & Mary in 1841 to eliminate them

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7WQ-XS5

[Mabel Bagshawe]

If this is him in 1901 in St Margaret at Cliffe, Dover, then he dies later that year

Joseph Slee    79 - b Torrington, retired engineer
Susan Slee    69

RG13; 840; 44; 7

He marries Susan in 1876. 1881 he is an inspector of works in Rotherhithe, (on Ancestry as Joseph Lee) and then they retire to Dover sometime before the 1891 census

I suspect the moving around comes with his work. I'm not sure if he moved to Hampshire, or more precisely the  Isle of Wight, as the marriage was at Cowes, or just was married there.

I highly suspect he was back in South Wales in the 1880s. There's a reference to Joseph Slee as foreman of works in a newspaper report on the opening of a new dry dock in Cardiff in 1884 - it would fit his occupation in 1881 and if he specialised in the masonry of dock building you can imagine him moving from one project to another. There is a maritime link between  Swansea, Jersey, Cowes and  Rotherhithe (and Dover)

Interestingly the south pier of St Helier docks was constructed 1841-46 with the north pier following, between 1853 and 59 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

And the breakwater at Braye Harbour, Alderney was built by the British to protect ships of the Navy between 1847 and 1864

There's a potential death for Eliza Slee in Dover in 1875 - the marriage to Susan was also in Dover

[Daffern2020]

If this is him in 1901 in St Margaret at Cliffe, Dover, then he dies later that year

Joseph Slee    79 - b Torrington, retired engineer
Susan Slee    69

RG13; 840; 44; 7

He marries Susan in 1876. 1881 he is an inspector of works in Rotherhithe, (on Ancestry as Joseph Lee) and then they retire to Dover sometime before the 1891 census

I suspect the moving around comes with his work. I'm not sure if he moved to Hampshire, or more precisely the  Isle of Wight, as the marriage was at Cowes, or just was married there.

I highly suspect he was back in South Wales in the 1880s. There's a reference to Joseph Slee as foreman of works in a newspaper report on the opening of a new dry dock in Cardiff in 1884 - it would fit his occupation in 1881 and if he specialised in the masonry of dock building you can imagine him moving from one project to another. There is a maritime link between  Swansea, Jersey, Cowes and  Rotherhithe (and Dover)

Interestingly the south pier of St Helier docks was constructed 1841-46 with the north pier following, between 1853 and 59

Great Work! I think Joseph Slee now holds the title in my tree for the most marriges.

[Daffern2020]

think this is Owen Owens & Mary in 1841 to eliminate them

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7WQ-XS5

Thank you for looking into this. That really helps. Interestingly I have found a family of Rowland's who also lived in St Helier in 1851. With the wife and thier children all born in Wales. With the last family member Caroline Rowland apparently the only step daughter to the head of the household. I mean I doubt it's connected but I did notice it when looking for a Mary Rowland.

[Daffern2020]

And the breakwater at Braye Harbour, Alderney was built by the British to protect ships of the Navy between 1847 and 1864

There's a potential death for Eliza Slee in Dover in 1875 - the marriage to Susan was also in Dover

Eliza died in 1875 and married Susan in 1876. Thanks, that looks good. I've also found a death for a Mary Slee in January, Swansea Glamorganshire 1859. I wonder if maybe she returned to her country for her death (I don't know if that's a thing?) And considering it was only a year later he married Susan from Eliza. His second marriage to Eliza was April 1859. I wonder if he was the type of guy who didn't wait around?

[osprey]

from the GRO index, the Mary Slee whose death was registered in Swansea in 1859 was under a year old, birth registered dec qtr 1858, death registered jan qtr 1859.