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Offline Paul Peter

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Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« on: Thursday 29 October 20 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The section for Irishtown  Clonmel seems to be missing from the 1901 census is there someone I can contact to see if it is missing or just not on line yet ? Also is there a way to get access to documents held in National Archive. I see documents on there that are related to family members but am not getting any response from them on how I could access them
Thanks
Paul
Family Names
Butler of  Dungarvan
Donoghue or O'Donoghue or Donohoe of Abbeyside
Hufsham, Hursum or Horsom of Dungarvan
Whelan of Abbeyside Dungarvan
Flynn of Dungarvan
Drohan of Carrick on Suir or Clonmel
Daniel of Carrick on Suir
Kirwin of Kilrossanty Waterford
Hogan of Kilmacthomas Waterford

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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 October 20 18:02 GMT (UK) »

Have you seen this thread? You can add your missing townland to it.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=601757.0

The National Archives of Ireland are currently closed to the public but you may be able to contact them by telephone or e-mail.

See:
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/visit-us/contact-us/

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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 October 20 22:20 GMT (UK) »
i think you are right, however in case you didnt check the 1911 census I found the census does include Irishtown Upper   Clonmel West Urban   Tipperary
eg http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Clonmel_West_Urban/Irishtown_Upper/818263/
 
originally it was in St mary Clonmel townland in Tipperary South riding, if the continuation valuation revision books for griffiths exist in the same way as those held in PRONI, belfast your homestead may be listed under occupier
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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 October 20 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Did Sinann find some Irishtown 1901 census back in 2018?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=792577.0

Found Irishtown Upper (see top right corner)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003916200/
Paste the link into this page and you can move up and down the images
http://www.irelandgen.com/tools/census_nav2.php

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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 October 20 23:11 GMT (UK) »
The same thing on FamilySearch
Images more faded
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99L5-ZJYF

They do flag up a lot of missing pages on that Clonmel film.

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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 20 08:42 GMT (UK) »
bingo the search terms are 
Townland or street Burgagery-lands
DED Clonmel Rural
County Tipperary
examples I am not sure if that is complete , please try it yourself
OMahony Thomas Keating Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 60 M
OMahony Mary Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 40 F
OMahony Alexandra Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 24 F
O Mahony Margaret Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 21 F
O Mahony Willams A K Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 12 M
Foley John Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 70 M
Bragie Margaret Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 60 F
Cooke Bridget Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 24 F
Delahunty James Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 58 M
Delahunty Alice Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 30 F
Delahunty James Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 12 M
Delahunty Mary Margt Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 9 F
Delahunty Richard Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 5 M
Delahunty Bernard Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 0 M
Kavanagh Annie Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 13 F
Kavanagh Michael Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 7 M
Cronin Hannah Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 26 F
Leahy John Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 46 M
Leahy Johanna Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 69 F
Leahy Alice Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 13 F
Leahy James Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 11 M
Leahy Margaret Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 9 F
Leahy Noarh Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 7 F
Leahy Minnie Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 5 F
Leahy Patrick Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 3 F
Lonergan Michael Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 35 M
Lonergan Pat Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 27 M
Lonergan Margret Burgagery-lands Clonmel Rural Tipperary 54 F
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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 October 20 09:10 GMT (UK) »
bingo the search terms are 
Townland or street Burgagery-lands

But are any of those "Burgagery-lands" people (28, not many!) living Irishtown? :-\

Sinann on the other thread I linked to

Address
 Burgagery Lands West, Irishtown Upper

Think that should be the other way around
Irishtown Upper is the street
Burgagery Lands West is the townland.
Clonmel

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Re: Missing 1901 census and National Archives
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:22 GMT (UK) »
thanks I was looking to see who lived at 56 Irishtown in 1901 and the link from Sinnan was amazing enough number 56, my mother was born there and her family had lived there for just over 100 years. They only moved in there in 1919 but I have a photo taken before then which shows a small child standing at the door and was trying to find who it could have been
Family Names
Butler of  Dungarvan
Donoghue or O'Donoghue or Donohoe of Abbeyside
Hufsham, Hursum or Horsom of Dungarvan
Whelan of Abbeyside Dungarvan
Flynn of Dungarvan
Drohan of Carrick on Suir or Clonmel
Daniel of Carrick on Suir
Kirwin of Kilrossanty Waterford
Hogan of Kilmacthomas Waterford