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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 02 November 20 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Remember that Annette gave us the details of John's baptism at the Red Church - and also that of his wife to be!

Those baptisms also seem to be free on ancestry.co.uk right now.
Ditto marriage of John and Ellen in 1915.
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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #28 on: Monday 02 November 20 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the extra information Ladyhawk, I'll study it carefully and will also take advantage of your suggestion to make use of the Ancestry freebie, thank you Jonw
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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 19:54 GMT (UK) »
As a comparative newcomer I haven't yet worked out how to start a post with a quote from an earlier one so I'll say that this is in response to recent posts from Ladyhawk. 

With regard to the similarity of John Jones' signatures at his own wedding and when he was a witness for his brother Alfred, I asked MJ if she had a sample of John's handwriting and by a real piece of luck  the attached message was written on the back of John's photo.  Connie was a nickname for John's ladyfriend so publishing it won't breach any confidentiality!  If Ladyhawk does think the writing matches then I'll give MJ the link to Alfred's photo and see if she sees a resemblance to John.

I'm interested to see that some of the children of Alfred and Eliza Wood Trebeck are being shown with mmn as Wood rather than Trebeck.  I don't think this family are relevant to our research as, according to the GRO Index, they only had the one son, Leonard T.H. 

The evidence supplied by kindly Rootschatters is very convincing and I begin to be sure that my John must definitely be the one from the Jones/Doubtfire marriage.


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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:38 GMT (UK) »
For you an others to compare to see what you think

I have attached snippets of the signatures of

John Jones as witness to Alfred's marriage in 1913
John Jones' 1915 marriage to Ellen Emily Arno
John Jones 1915 army record (wife named Ellen Emily child Ivy Ellen)
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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Can't really miss the fact that they are identical, particularly the capital Js.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ladyhawk.  I agree Girl Guide. not only are the capital J's the same but so are the h's, the way the curve isn't properly formed and that part of the letter is very squashed, in the n' s the middle, upward stroke leaves a wide gap between it and the first stroke and in the e's the loop at the top has virtually no "opening".

I'm sufficiently sure that this must be MJ's John Jones so I'll now ask their views about a likeness between their father and Alfred, bearing in mind that Alfred's photo was taken when he was a young man and MJ only knew John when he was in his 50s
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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Will this help?  So that others can see what they think?



Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 22:21 GMT (UK) »
John Jones height was 5 foot 4 and a quarter inches on that army record (age 25)
How does that compare with what MJ knows?
Pity it is so brief, just a few pages, limited description (no eye colour, for example)

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Do we know why exactly he was discharged from the London Regiment in 1917?

His reg no was 375218
Ah, he had a Silver War Badge. You can see the roll on ancestry
John Jones, 8th London Rgt., badge no. 223 981, enlisted 11.12.15, discharged 21.8.17, Sick.
No overseas service.

John said he had been in the 17th County of London
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Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 22:26 GMT (UK) »
His reg no was 375218
Ah, he had a Silver War Badge. You can see the roll on ancestry

Also is a medal index card for that SWB
Medal card of Jones, John Corps: London Regiment Regiment No: 375218
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3150774

See that as well on ancestry, cause of discharge Sickness
I think those cards are always free to view on ancestry.co.uk
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