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Re: Liverpool Catholic Baptism Sep 1866. Father: Frederic CROCKFORD
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 November 20 13:29 GMT (UK) »
The Frederic Anstruther 1872 is listed on the 1901 census for the Isle of Man says he was born Scotland

1911 still in Isle of Man states he was born Fife Scotland his name Frederic Elliot Anstruther

The family likes the name Elliott, eldest son George has it for a middle name, and at one point son Dominic uses the name Dominic C Elliott-Anstruther, and Gilbert has the middle initial E.

Have you looked on Scotland's People for Frederic Bennett circa 1872

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Re: Liverpool Catholic Baptism Sep 1866. Father: Frederic CROCKFORD
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:28 GMT (UK) »

The Frederic Anstruther 1872 is listed on the 1901 census for the Isle of Man says he was born Scotland

1911 still in Isle of Man states he was born Fife Scotland his name Frederic Elliot Anstruther

The family likes the name Elliott, eldest son George has it for a middle name, and at one point son Dominic uses the name Dominic C Elliott-Anstruther, and Gilbert has the middle initial E.

Have you looked on Scotland's People for Frederic Bennett circa 1872


Sadly, there is little coherence between what this family chose to declare on official documents and the reality.

I grew up with being told that all these siblings had been born ['on the wrong side of the blanket'] in India, fathered by a rich man who abandoned them to London poverty.

This myth seemed to them, to explained why they could not even find their own birth certificates.  Well you wouldn't if you were looking under ANSTRUTHER!  As good Victorians, the children were not encouraged to query the family stories even if some of them might have remembered being called BENNETTs.  I have not yet found any school records.

I only found them all in 1881, living in Hanwell [next door to the RC church] when I searched MELGUND by forename only.

Any detectives out there are welcome to plunge in.
It would be grand to finally know how I got my two middle names!
Mark Elliot Anstruther HEAL
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Liverpool Catholic Baptism Sep 1866. Father: Frederic CROCKFORD
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:57 GMT (UK) »
amondg,

Just one line from your earlier post #17
"plus Robert Henry Bennett  reg 1876 Brentford mmn Henry"
I have this certificate [currently mis-filed]with middle name HERBERT.

Births Sep 1876   (>99%)
BENNETT    Robert Herbert        Brentford    3a   101
and baptism:
Melgund Robert Anstruther BENNETT born 4 June 1876 but only baptised 2 Nov. 1877.

I wonder why there was this excessive delay before the baptism?

Many thanks for your continuing interest and all your efforts to sort out this family!
Mark Elliot Anstruther HEAL

ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Liverpool Catholic Baptism Sep 1866. Father: Frederic CROCKFORD
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 03 November 20 17:51 GMT (UK) »
My mistake I wrote down Robert Herbert but typed Robert Henry.

The National Archives is still offering free download due to the closure for virus lockdown.

Try for the naval record of Frederic Crockford