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Where's William
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 00:18 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for birth and parent information of William Smith. Born abt 1811 Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk. Father Joseph Smith lost in cyber space. Mother? Hope anyone cab help. Thank you

Married: Mary Ann Richardson 3 Jun 1844 St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey. Residence Princes St, Lambeth
Dau: Mary Ann Smith Born 13 Mar 1845, Bapt. 27 Apr 1845 Holy Trinity, Chelsea. Residence 9 Bridge Row, Pimlico, Chelsea
Son: Charles Castle Smith Born 28 Nov 1846 Holy Trinity, Chelsea. Residence 9 Bridge Row, Pimlico, Chelsea

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 October 20 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat  :)
Familysearch have the following, a possibility but of course as you know a Smith family can be hard to research, and it may not be him.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=william&q.surname=smith&q.birthLikePlace=stoke%20by%20nayland&q.birthLikeDate.from=1800&q.birthLikeDate.to=1815&q.fatherGivenName=joseph&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

Christening 4th August 1811  Stoke by Nayland
Father  Joseph
Mother  Ann Deaves

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Smith married Anne Deaves 22 Jan 1811 Stoke by Nayland

1841 St George Hanover Square
Joseph Smith 50
William Smith 25
James Smith 10
Caroline Smith 20
William Smith 3
Samuel Smith 1
Eliza Smith 5
None born in county

Caroline Smith, bap 1821 Stoke by Nayland, d/o Joseph & Ann
James Smith, bap 1825, Stoke by Nayland, s/onJoseph and Ann

William Smith, bap 9 Jan 1837, Stoke by Nayland, s/o William & Mary
Samuel Smith, bap 16 Jun 1839, Stoke by Nayland, s/o William & Mary
Eliza Smith, bap 31 Jan 1836, Stoke by Nayland, s/o William & Mary

A William Smith married Mary Whymark, 1833, Stoke by Nayland

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:44 GMT (UK) »
A Mary Smith, age 28, buried 15 Nov 1840, Stoke by Nayland

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Assuming you mean William at the following...
1851 Lower Sloane St Chelsea
William Smith, 39, greengocer, Stoke by Nayland
Mary Ann Smith, 30, b. Middlesex
William Smith, 14, Stoke by Nayland
Samuel Smith, 11, Stoke by Nayland
Mary Ann Smith, 6, Middlesex
Charles C Smith, 4, Middlesex
Sarah Smith, 2, Middlesex
Thomas F, 0, Middlesex

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 20 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you cath151 and jomcd967, your replies and help are appreciated.
Assuming 1851 Census result from above I guess I am trying to understand if Mary Ann Richardson might have become a mother at 16 years of age prior to marriage to William Smith 1844. That said I am thinking maybe not, it seems Mary Ann Richardson was born and lived in Middlesex before 1844 marriage in Lambeth Chelsea to William Smith from Stoke by Nayland.
A question then arises prior to 1844 was William Smith previously married with sons William and Samuel in Stoke by Nayland.
Will continue looking for William Smith information prior to 1844 marriage.
Thank you again  :)

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Where's William
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 November 20 23:38 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for birth and parent information of William Smith. Born abt 1811 Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk. Father Joseph Smith lost in cyber space. Mother? Hope anyone can help. Occupation Carman 1845. Thank you

Married: Mary Ann Richardson 3 Jun 1844 St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey. Residence Princes St, Lambeth
Dau: Mary Ann Smith Born 13 Mar 1845, Bapt. 27 Apr 1845 Holy Trinity, Chelsea. Residence 9 Bridge Row, Pimlico, Chelsea
Son: Charles Castle Smith Born 28 Nov 1846 Holy Trinity, Chelsea. Residence 9 Bridge Row, Pimlico, Chelsea
Other: children born later in around Chelsea area.

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Re: Where's William
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 November 20 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Was he previously married as the 1851 shows children born 1837 and 1840 both in Stoke by Nayland

EDIT - 1844 marriage cert shows him as a bachelor occ labourer and father Joseph also a labourer

Are you sure you have the right marriage?

1851 - all children from Mary were b Middlesex

William Smith 39 b Stoke by Nayland Suffolk occ greengrocer
Mary 30 b Tatham Mísex
William 14 S by N Suffolk
Samuel 11. Ditto
Mary 6 b Pimlico
Charles C 4 mmn Richardson - Pimlico
Sarah 2bb Pimlico
Thomas J 11mths b Chelsea
HO107/1472/488/38
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Re: Where's William
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 November 20 00:47 GMT (UK) »
There is an 1841 entry which includes a 50yr old Joseph Smith occ carman plus William 25 occ Labourer Caroline 20  & William & Samuel aged 3 & 1 - living in Middlesex but all shown as not born in county

HO107/732/13/26/8
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)