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Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 08:47 GMT (UK) »
My matrilineal quadruple-great-grandmother has proven quite the brick wall for a number of years. Here's Charlotte with her family in 1861 in Oakley Green:

Frederick Johnson, age 48, born in Bray
Charlotte Johnson, age 56, born in Bray
Sarah Johnson, age 20, born in Bray
Sophia Johnson, age 17, born in Bray
Emma Johnson, age 14, born in Bray
Thomas F. Johnson, age 11, born in Bray

Now here's the certainty: Charlotte's maiden name was Flitter, and she married Frederick in March 1836 - I can't seem to find the wedding online right now but I know it's the truth. And whenever I search for "Charlotte Flitter born 1805 -/+5 in England", nothing comes up but a German baptism.  ???

Based on the one surviving picture of her daughter Emma (my direct ancestor) I have a theory about Charlotte's ancestry, but for now I'm sticking with the minimal facts.

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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 October 20 09:10 GMT (UK) »
From a transcription by Berkshire FHS - gives the marriage date as 20 March 1836 at St Michael, Bray, by Banns.
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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Bumblebee, Can you see a Marriage for Daniel Flitter 1838?

There is also a George Flitter
1841 they are living in Bray

Also a Leah Flitter married a George Johnson 1838
Both Marriages Reg same time Dec 1838

1841 Census it appears Charlotte has a Daug Leah born c 1834

Seems to me that George/Leah/George are possible siblings for Charlotte.

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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:03 GMT (UK) »
I remember posting on this three years ago.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.brk.general/7808.1

No idea if still relevant

1841, Bray
Frederick Johnson 25
Charlotte Johnson 25
Ellen Johnson 3
Mary Johnson 1
Sarah Johnson 3 mo
Lear Fritter 7
all the Johnsons born in county. Lear Fritter, no

1851, recorded as Caroline Johnson. Age has gone up to 44. Born Bray
1861 and 1871 show Charlotte Johnson as born in Bray circa 1805/6

The girl with them in 1841, Leah Flitter, may have married Joseph Ranscombe in 1853
There was another, older, Leah Flitter around in the Bray area. Who married George Johnson in 1838? Was George a relation of Frederick? No one seems to have the full marriage details. In the census Leah Johnson says she was born in Warfield. She may have died March qtr 1890, Windsor, age 78, which puts her born around 1811
Possible baptism?

Leah Fritter bpt 4 Aug 1811 Warfield, Berkshire
Parents: John & Mary Fritter
(from LDS mf 88472, sourced from Warfield parish registers)

Also, from same source
Charlotte Futler bpt 28 Dec 1806 Warfield, Berkshire
Parents John & Mary Futler

However, from the BT's (mf 1279474), she is indexed on Family Search as Fuller. Perhaps they didn't cross the t's on the bishop's transcripts!
As is Ann Frither/Fuller, bap Warfield  4 November 1804.
Only marriage I can see is at Wokingham, 15 Dec 1799, John Fritter + Mary Williams

Back to the Flitters in Bray. Another one is George. Married to Mary, in the census he usually says he was born in Warfield, although in 1861 he says Bray. Has a daughter Charlotte.
Death?
March 1874 Cookham
Flitter, George
age 71

So born circa 1802/3. Possible baptism? Mistranscribed?
George Tritter bp 14 Nov 1802 Warfield, Berkshire
Parents John & Mary Tritter

With nothing showing up in Bray, perhaps the Fritter baptisms in the next door parish of Warfield, possibly including Charlotte in 1806, could be worth investigating.
John


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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Also, from same source
Charlotte Futler bpt 28 Dec 1806 Warfield, Berkshire
Parents John & Mary FutlerAlso, from same source


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPRX-MXZ

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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Think you have it jonw65 :)
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Re: Charlotte Johnson née Flitter (b. 1804/05 Bray, Berkshire?)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 October 20 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Let's hope so.
At least my memory is still working!
John