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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Checking on GRO I find 4 Bird children born with MMN Bull

1861 Rachael Martha 31/08/1861, baptised
1866  Rosanna  Martha 29/11/1863 baptised
Rose baptised 1871 along with Louisa Duffield

Not sure about these but have MMN Bull
1864 Edwin Frederick
1867 Alfred William
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Parents didn't marry till they were of full age in 1863 either - so they had at least three children before marrying.

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:34 GMT (UK) »
A copy of the will might help. I have only had to send for one will and that had several notes added re tracing people if I recall.
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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Emily Rachael Bird Blything born 1844

dec 1899 aged 52

So possibly an aunt ?

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Checking on GRO I find 4 Bird children born with MMN Bull

1861 Rachael Martha 31/08/1861, baptised
1866  Rosanna  Martha 29/11/1863 baptised
Rose baptised 1871 along with Louisa Duffield

Not sure about these but have MMN Bull
1864 Edwin Frederick
1867 Alfred William


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Just looked up the two boys and they are from a  different family - parents Charles and Mary.


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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:42 GMT (UK) »
I've looked for a death for Rosanna but can't find one, so assume she must have married. But no matter where I look, or how hard I try, I just can't seem to find her at all.

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:46 GMT (UK) »
This won't find her but Chester and Emily seem to be brother and sister

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Just for info. which you may already know and some already posted.

Chester Bird a painter    Married    24 May 1863   St Marylebone   Mary Bull
Abode 37 Seymore Place. Parents John & Leonard both Publicans

BIRD, MARY       24 
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 382

Chester Bird widower, a painter     Married    10 Jun 1867   St Mary, Bryanston Square   Louisa Pooley
Abode 11 Seymore Place. Parents John a Pork Butcher & Warren a Veterinary Surgeon

BIRD, LOUISA       25 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 411

There was a third notice of Marriage Banns but no marriage record?
Chester Bird, widower       25 Jul 1869   Christ Church, St Marylebone   Savinia  Hain

Deaths Dec 1869   
Bird    Chester    27    Kensington    1a   45

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 31 October 20 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Emily Rachael married Stephen Francis John SQUIRE

Admin to the above , died 20/03/1890 Torquay

I do wonder if you found this marriage whether Rosanna might have been a witness

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ADDED
Stephen Francis John Squire widower
married
Emily Rachael Webb[/color]color] widow
at St Michael Stockwell
23/02/1899
witnesses Ellen M Squire
Sarah Jane ?
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: can't find death or marriage for Rosanna Bird so am now completely baffled!
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 31 October 20 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Just for info. which you may already know and some already posted.

Chester Bird a painter    Married    24 May 1863   St Marylebone   Mary Bull
Abode 37 Seymore Place. Parents John & Leonard both Publicans

BIRD, MARY       24 
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 382

Chester Bird widower, a painter     Married    10 Jun 1867   St Mary, Bryanston Square   Louisa Pooley
Abode 11 Seymore Place. Parents John a Pork Butcher & Warren a Veterinary Surgeon

BIRD, LOUISA       25 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 411

There was a third notice of Marriage Banns but no marriage record?
Chester Bird, widower       25 Jul 1869   Christ Church, St Marylebone   Savinia  Hain

Deaths Dec 1869   
Bird    Chester    27    Kensington    1a   45

Colin
I missed the third sets of banns as ancestry has him transcribed as BERD. I think she is Lavinia? Chester didn't hang about did he?