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Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to help my 85 year old cousin, who has found his birth certificate and he says there is info on there he did not know and he would like some help understanding it. He was never told much about his parents or his early life, and he has never thought about the circumstances of his birth before and I donít want to upset him with wrong info so I wanted to check some facts for him. We would be grateful for your help on the following:

1) his birth was registered a full year (almost to the day) after his birth. Reg date was summer 1936 showing birth date summer 1935. How long were they supposed to have, and would his parents got into trouble for not registering him earlier? ( There are no notes on the birth certificate to show it was a re-reg for change of surname etc, and indeed the parents didnít marry until many years later)

2) My cousin was always told he was born in West Ham hospital but the location on the cert is ď202 st Maryís roadĒ and then the letters VA or UA. What do those letters mean; he thought perhaps it was UK in poor handwriting but I didnít think so? (I donít have the cert, he read it out over the phone and he doesnít do email or scanning! )

The same VA or UA follows the address of his mother and she is at an address in Kingston on Thames,

3) His fatherís address was different, an address in Hornchurch.

My cousin would like to know; would the addresses given of his parents be those at the time of his birth in august 1935, or at the time of the registration a year later?


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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:11 GMT (UK) »
As far as I am aware a birth could be registered up to 12 months after the date of birth, there was no penalty for late registration. After the expiration of twelve months the birth of any child, could not be registered except with the written authority of the Registrar General.

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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:53 GMT (UK) »
The cert should show his actual birthplace address but the parents addresses were more likely to be those at the time of registration

EDIT

Could UA be UD?  Urban District
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - See my edit above re UD
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 22:05 GMT (UK) »
The cert should show his actual birthplace address but the parents addresses were more likely to be those at the time of registration

EDIT

Could UA be UD?  Urban District

I donít know what this is or means, is this something commonly seen on birth certificates in London of that time? My relative has the birth cert in front of him and he doesnít do scanning or emailing so I am going on what he said which was VA or UA or perhaps UK.
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes UD for Urban District or RD for Rural District is very common on certificates -- they were local Government sub-divisions similar to  parishes / boroughs

It is far more likely to be UD than UA, VA or UK

Is it possible the street address of the Hospital was 202 St Marys Rd?
Very often, the street address was used rather than the  name of Hospitals or similar institutions
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes UD for Urban District or RD for Rural District is very common on certificates -- they were local Government sub-divisions similar to  parishes / boroughs

It is far more likely to be UD than UA, VA or UK

Is it possible the street address of the Hospital was 202 St Marys Rd?
Very often, the street address was used rather than the  name of Hospitals or similar institutions

Thank you. Not a hospital. Have ascertained it was most likely a private house.
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Re: Questions about a late reg in the 1930s
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes UD for Urban District or RD for Rural District is very common on certificates -- they were local Government sub-divisions similar to  parishes / boroughs

It is far more likely to be UD than UA, VA or UK

Is it possible the street address of the Hospital was 202 St Marys Rd?
Very often, the street address was used rather than the  name of Hospitals or similar institutions

Thank you
Pugh of Cardiganshire & Glamorgan.
Coombs of Bengal, British India.
Digby of Finchingfield, NW Essex.
Pearse of London.