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Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone find a  baptism for the Margaret Caldwell who died in 1859 in Canongate, Midlothian, aged 63, according to the SP death index. Her mother's maiden name is given as Caldwell - does this make it likely that she was illegitimate and her baptism wouldn't have been recorded?

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England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 November 20 09:56 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Margt Caldwell on the 1851 census
Age:   56
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1795
Relationship:   Wife
Gender:   Female
Where born:   St Quivox, AYR
Civil Parish:   Edinburgh St Mary
County:   Midlothian
Address:   7 London St.

Four children on census eldest born Cragie, Ayr, youngest Edinburgh.

Three baptisms on SP in Ayrshire around that time.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 November 20 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Two marriage records for Margaret, their children born Craigie.

CALDWELL   CHARLES   MARGARET ARTHUR   11/06/1824   Craigie
CALDWELL   CHARLES   MARGARET ARTHUR   15/06/1824   Coylton

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 November 20 10:20 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 Margarets husband Charles, born Ayrshire, is a Butler, he is at 18 Moray Place, Edinburgh St Stephen.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 November 20 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Children of Charles & Margaret  born Craigie, Agnes 1825, John 1828, Grace 1832 & David 1836 (None born Edinburgh.
In 1841 Margaret & Children in Cragie, Charles  a Servant in Neilston. Renfrew.
So they moved to Edinburgh between 1841 & 1851. Possible births below which seem to fit this family but do I have the correct Margaret.
I cannot find an Arthur who married a Caldwell, so is the death record an error?

   Margaret Arthur
Mother   Agnes Burns
Father   David Arthur
Birth           13/11/1793
Baptism   15/11/1793, St. Quivox and Newton,  Ayr

   Charles Caldwel
Mother   Grizle Shaw
Father   John Caldwel
Baptism   06/01/1796, Coylton, Ayr


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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 November 20 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jang,

The first thing I would do is get the actual death record for Margaret Caldwell who died in 1859 from SP. This should give you details of her parentage. It will only cost you a minimal amount of money.

Do you know anything else about her? Looking at the information given here by ColC this would be for a married lady. Was your Margaret married or single?

One thing to remember is that pre official registration in Scotland (1855) lots of Births/Marriages/Deaths were not recorded or they have been lost or destroyed over the years.

Dorrie

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Madden, County Westmeath
Patrick, Fife
Easson, Fife
Leslie, Fife
Paterson, Fife

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 November 20 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Colin, for finding Margaret and Charles Caldwell and family. Margaret's age fits with the death I found except for her mother's maiden name. If that information is correct then it suggested that she was illegitimate, taking her mother's surname. But if that info isn't right then this Margaret Caldwell is a good fit.

dowdstree, yes I need to get the death certificate - I went to do that before I posted but found my Australian MC giftcard isn't accepted by SP. Off to the PO tomorrow to get one that is :-)

I'm interested in a Margaret Caldwell I found in 1851:
Regent Street Edinburgh Parish Duddingston
Catherine Nairn Head Widow 68 Proprietor Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Helen Preston Servant Unmarried 16 House Serv Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret Caldwell Servant Unmarried 65 House Serv Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland

I know the age doesn't fit with the one who died in 1859 but maybe the informant didn't know her details. I couldn't find this one in the 1861 census.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 November 20 12:06 GMT (UK) »
I have a few spare credits for SP so I will look at the 1859 Death of Margaret Caldwell and get back to you.

Hopefully it will be the lady you are looking for.

Dorrie
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Dickson, County Down & Dundee
Madden, County Westmeath
Patrick, Fife
Easson, Fife
Leslie, Fife
Paterson, Fife

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Re: Looking for baptism of Margaret Caldwell born ca 1796
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 November 20 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Dorrie, that's very generous of you. I hope I can return the favour sometime.  Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk