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Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 22:10 GMT (UK) »

Hello,
I'm searching for possible shipping records/passenger records for Agnes Doyle.
She travelled to Australia and was married in Hamilton Victoria in 1864.
Agnes born about 1838/39 according to her marriage certificate, age listed as 25. Place of birth was  Co Monaghan in Ireland.

Her parents on the marriage certificate are listed as Thomas Doyle and Alice Cassidy. She cannot write. 
On her death Certificate in 1906 father was listed as Peter, but her son was the informant and might not be known.
Any help or suggestions on where to explore would be wonderful. As Agnes is a mystery.
The family say she meet her husband out here but how long before they married who knows.

Thank you so much
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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 November 20 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Can you please list all the information that you see on the marriage certificate, 1864.....and death certificate, 1906.

Shipping 1859 - 1863....what is the significance of 1859?

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 November 20 00:00 GMT (UK) »
25 January 1864 Hamilton
Marriage between Henry Goodwin age 30 labourer & Agnes Doyle age 25 house servant.
Both from Hamilton.  Agnes born Co Monaghan, Ireland
Agnes parents name Thomas Doyle - labourer & Alice Cassidy
Agnes signed with X married in the manse C of E

Death 26 October 1906 Casterton Victoria
Married woman 68yrs - father Peter Doyle mother unknown.
Born Dublin, 45 yrs in Colony.

This would estimate arriving in about 1861.

I choice 1859-1863 as just the 5 yrs prior to marriage.


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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 November 20 00:07 GMT (UK) »

Can you please account for all the headings on the marriage certificate please.

Henry GOODWIN..... birthplace, parents, occupation.
Names of witnesses please.

Can you please account for all the headings on the death certificate.
 
Agnes GOODWIN....married who / when / where/ at what age.....died as wife or widow?
Cause of death.....
Issue........
Buried where.......

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 November 20 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Henry GOODWIN
birthplace - Sussex England
parents - George Goodwin & Harriet Pearson
occupation - labourer
Names of witnesses - Donald MacCarthy & Elizabeth MacDonald (? wife of minister)
Minister - Aug MacDonald

Agnes GOODWIN
married who  - Henry Goodwin
where - Hamilton  - age 26yrs
died as wife or widow - married woman
Cause of death -  senile decay, heart failure
Issue - Thomas - 41, William - dead, Henry - 39, James & John - 37 (twins) Alice - 35, Elizabeth - 33
Buried where - Casterton new cemetery

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 November 20 01:02 GMT (UK) »

http://www.ozgenonline.com/~Carols_Headstones/Casterton.htm

Look at this site for DOYLE / GOODWIN / CASEY burials.

It might be worth considering CASSIDY to be CASEY.....accent..

Agnes is a popular name in Scotland....not very common in Ireland.


This site...assisted / unassisted passengers Victoria.....for Agnes.......nationality Irish....
https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/1635/

Does not find DOYLE.......but finds Agnes CASSEY?.........Something to start with?

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 November 20 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, this a wonderful start.
I appreciate your time.

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 November 20 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

What denomination for the marriage?

How do you know she could not write?  It may be she made her X mark on the m.c. but perhaps the clergy said "make your Mark here" ... instead of "sign here"....  :) :)

1906 less 45 years +- 5 yrs  ... so arrived say  1858 -1863.   

I agree re the possibility of CASSEY ... these records were often based on oral info being handwritten by shipping clerks who were not required to be university qualified in spelling or in handwriting.   :)  their skills in scribbling with quill and ink ... well,  umm..  yes ... good penmanship was often lacking.

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Re: Shipping information about 1859-1863 to Australia
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 November 20 08:10 GMT (UK) »
As mentioned earlier married in the manse Church of England

On death cert the minister who did service at the funeral was Catholic.

Thanks for your thoughts re Cassey. I'll explore more.