Howe family in Staffordshire

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This is more prove....

Ancestry Probate:

HOWE Catherine of 1 Wilson-Street Wolverhampton, Widow died 11 August 1929 at

376 Wolverhampton-road, Heath Town, Wolverhampton.  ***

Probate: Birmingham 3 October to Thomas Joseph HOWE railway van setter.

Effects: £247 3s. 3d.


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1911 Census : 16 Herbert Street

CARROLL

Thomas -  44 - House Painter
Catherine - 42
Daniel - 4



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Looking at previous Rootschat Staffordshire - address: 376 Wolverhampton Road, Heath Town, Wolverhampton - it appears this address is New Cross Hospital, Wolverhampton and other Researchers' Ancestors had this address on their death certificate.

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I think Frank's Dad was also involved with the Railways -
Searching the National Archives for Churchbridge (which is about 2 miles from my home).....

Churchbridge Sidings - (Railway plans etc)  ...

This one for 1900

1900

Churchbridge Sidings - new signal cabin.....

Railway Plans (British Raid Engineer's Department at Crewe) Churchbridge Sidings (Walsall-Rugeley).  etc.

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Thanks heaps, I just had a feeling about that second marriage which I only found yesterday. I asked myself what happened to Frank with young children so I went looking for another marriage - and there it was. I appreciate your time and effort and expertise in being able to research so much better than me. I often have the question but struggle to find the answer - Such great news to find this second marriage
But I am not sure why you think Frank's dad was also involved with the railway
Thanks again for your assistance, regards .............. Alison

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The 1900 Churchbridge railway reference you think is Frank's dad - is there a name? ...... Alison

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If you Google:


Gilpins The Canalorak


This is an informative article + maps all about Gilpins of Churchbridge.....

Will give you an idea of the industry etc.


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Frank - says he was born in Churchbridge - such a small area.

[howe02]

Thanks for the Churchbridge info - will google now
Misread 1911 census for Catherine Carroll - three children but all three deceased by 1911
The Daniel Carroll in 1901 census is the only name of a child I found but no death

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If you read the article (and there are others) - Gilpins employed lots of men - and it does goes on to say
Gilpins basin on the Wyrley Bank branch, located near to upper Landywood and the new cemetery, had a mineral railway associated with it, the mineral railway ran from the basin to Great Wyrley Collier and from there up to the tool works adjacent to the A34.

This area of Staffordshire - was a huge Coal Mining area - and Cannock where I live, many people came from all over the Country to work down the mines. 

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Wish I was there to go exploring and researching with you
I had planned a trip to Ireland and UK last year but still waiting on the COVID situation to improve, I was going to take my long-service leave to go researching. It will now be at least 2023 or 2024 before I think about international travel, thanks again for all your help
The search continues for Frank and the connection to my James Howe ........... A

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Back to your message Re: 1891 census, 4 Dunstall Street, Wolverhampton, George Howe and wife Martha and children and George's  mother, Mary HOWE (widow) 65 - etc. etc ? asked the question who is Mary's husband and George's father etc.

Family Search has the Marriage of George HOWE to Martha PRICE - 27 March 1880 Wolverhampton - Christ Church.

George HOWE  - aged 25  - residence: Fox Lane
father: George HOWE

Martha PRICE - aged 29

1881 Census, Wolverhampton
4 Stafford Road

George HOWE - 25 - Iron Planer - born Cheshire, etc
Martha - 30
Bertha - 2 months (Family Search, chrisstened 28 April 1881 - Christ Church, Wolverhampton)

(this family drew your attention, because they had a Son named Frank).

FreeReg - shows he was christened with this full name

Robert Frank Walter HOWE - christened 1 October 1882 - parents: George (Fitter) residence: West Street and Martha

Just Frank W - aged 8 on the 1891 census.


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Shavingon Cum Gresty: Cheshire (checking on Freebmd) - comes under Nantwich, Cheshire

?  GRO Index:

HOWE, George - 1855 S Quarter in Nantwich - mother's maiden name: FEAR

Family Search:  Christening 21 November 1826 Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire (Independent)

Mary FEAR - parents: William & Charlotte


1851 Census, Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire

FEAR
Charlotte - 65 - born Gilson, Hertfordshire
George - Son - 29 - born Sawbridgeworth
Mary FEAR - daughter - 25 - Out Door Servant - born Sawbridgeworth
Elizabeth FEAR - Grand-daughter - 1