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Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« on: Saturday 07 November 20 13:38 GMT (UK) »
My 5x great grandparents were George and Elizabeth Ilett of Stratford/West Ham.

They are together on the 1841 census at Mount Street, Stratford. Both are recorded as 50 - so born c. 1785 to 1797 - and born in Essex.

George died at Mount Street, Stratford 28 Oct 1850, aged 64 years - which (if accurate) would put him born c. 1786.
The widowed Elizabeth is on the 1851 census at 22 Mount Street. Age 63 (so b. c. 1788), born in Stratford, Essex.

I have been able to trace their children's births/baptims in the West Ham All Saints registers:
John (12/3/1812)
Ann (27/10/1813)
Eliza (21/9/1815)
George (4/1/1819)
Elizabeth (14/10/1820)
Emma (4/9/1822)
William (6/4/1824)
James (27/3/1827)
Joseph (14/4/1831)

But I've been unable to find George's baptism, nor his marriage to Elizabeth. 

For the marriage, I've looked in West Ham, All Saints 1804-1812 and in Leyton St Mary 1804-1812, but have't spotted them. I've been looking through the parish register images on the Essex Archives website, not relying on Ancestry/FamilySearch transcriptions.

Obviously there are dozens of churches in Essex/East London.  But to save me having to open each one, can anyone tell me which other churches were operating and performing marriages around this time?

Obviously, if anyone wants to have a look, I'd be very grateful, but I can't really ask that of rootschatters, particuarly as - unfortunately - Ilott is not a name that "transcribes well" - Hett, Hott, Ilott, Lott, Mott, Mett, Nett etc all appear!

One other clue might be that the informant on George Ilott's death certificate is Rachael Nix of Mount Street, Stratford, and she is (a widow & a visitor) in the Ilott household on the 1851 census, born c. 1779 in Stratford, Essex.  I am guessing that she might be George's sister or sister-in-law, but she could, of course, be a more distant relation, or indeed unrelated.

If the Stratford birthplace for Elizabeth Ilett and Rachel Nix shown on the 1851 census is correct, then I would have assumed they were most likely married nearby.

All pointers & suggestions to break through this brick wall are welcome!
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 November 20 14:54 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any more details for this transcript  :-\

George Ilett
Elizabeth Crawley
Marriage year   1811
Southwark St Saviour
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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 November 20 15:03 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any more details for this transcript  :-\

George Ilett
Elizabeth Crawley
Marriage year   1811
Southwark St Saviour

23 June
George has been transcribed as Hett, Kett, etc.
Image also on FS
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BP-SVFK

Ilett or Ilott?

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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 November 20 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Does look like llett.
I think you've made a good find, Rosie.


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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 November 20 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosie & Jon(?)

That does look promising.

Southwark's only 5 or 6 miles away, so well within the bounds of possibility, even for the early 19th century.

Though it's intriguing to wonder why they might have gone two counties away to marry, given that  she says (on 1851 census) she was born in Stratford, and all subsequent trace of them is in Stratford.  One of the witnesses to that marriage is a Mary Ilett, so they're clearly not marrying in secret, at least from the Ilett side. I'm slightly concerned that they don't have a child called Mary. 

I think I need to have a look if there were other Iletts (etc) around in Southwark.  If there aren't it really strengthens the likelihood of this marriage being the right one.
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 November 20 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosie & Jon(?)

That does look promising.

Southwark's only 5 or 6 miles away, so well within the bounds of possibility, even for the early 19th century.

Though it's intriguing to wonder why they might have gone two counties away to marry, given that  she says (on 1851 census) she was born in Stratford, and all subsequent trace of them is in Stratford.  One of the witnesses to that marriage is a Mary Ilett, so they're clearly not marrying in secret, at least from the Ilett side. I'm slightly concerned that they don't have a child called Mary. 

I think I need to have a look if there were other Iletts (etc) around in Southwark.  If there aren't it really strengthens the likelihood of this marriage being the right one.


Not very far away but 'over the River' which makes it a little more unlikely.....
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Looking for a marriage c. 1800-1812 in/around Stratford
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 November 20 21:08 GMT (UK) »



Not very far away but 'over the River' which makes it a little more unlikely.....

"Not going sarf of the river at this time in the century, guv'nor."  ;D
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk