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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 08:02 GMT (UK) »
Evening,

I have done some research on the Gaskin family and have a Ruth Gaskin born about 1873, she is a sibling of Job Gaskin born about 1871 among other children.

Their parents are William Gaskin and Emma Maria Webb who married in Halsted Essex on 25 Dec 1858, if this is the same Ruth as the one you are looking for I can't say for sure but worth looking into.

All these travelling families are hard to follow up and complete any of them.

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Amanda

Thanks Amanda for your post. Last night I had some doubts about Ruth's parents and this morning I have got up early(for me) to re-assess her. So thank your post, it kind of confirms my suspicions re her birth. All the information re her children is ok, it's her birth and parentage that need reviewing.

John

Thanks John, I appreciate the work you have put into this. I did have wonders about Ruth’s parents, as I was always told they were part of the Gaskin travellers that resided in Suffolk, It is incredible to see the different places they had travelled to.

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Bentley and Amanda. Please consider the following by what is known about Ruth. Her death and 1939 register both have a birth date 6th Aug 1875. On both the 1901/11 census she records her birthplace as Sudbury.

Amanda, you say Ruth has a brother called Job b c1871. This Job was born jq 1871 mmn HEDGES in Sudbury. His parents are William & Harriet HEADGES who married in 1858 Halstead.

I believe Job's father William had at least 2 brother's, Henry and Walter.

Henry Gaskin married Sarah Wellings JQ 1866 West Ham and had the following recorded children

1. Walter mq 1871 Sudbury mmn Wellins
2. Louisa dq 1872 West Ham mmn Wellings
3. John mq 1874 West Ham mmn Wellings
4. RUTH sq 1875 West Ham mmn Wellings
5.Alice sq 1877 North Witchford mmn Wellens
6. Mark mq 1880 Guiltcross mmn Wellings.

Ruth can be found in 1881 census ref rg11 1729 7a 16.
Hawker's caravan

Henry 42, Louisa (Sarah?) 36, Louis 10, John 14, Henry 12, George 8, Ruth 6,Mark 4 (4months)
All born Leytonstone

1891 census RG12 1401 77 20

George Gaskin 18  Hawker
Ruth Gaskin  17
Mark Gaskin 11

On the image of this census page is also William Gaskin with son Job(20=c1871)

The only conclusive way of being sure if this is Ruth's parent's ie Henry/Sarah is to purchase birth certificate to ascertain a date of birth. Must confess travelling people are hard to track.

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Bentley and Amanda. Please consider the following by what is known about Ruth. Her death and 1939 register both have a birth date 6th Aug 1875. On both the 1901/11 census she records her birthplace as Sudbury.

Amanda, you say Ruth has a brother called Job b c1871. This Job was born jq 1871 mmn HEDGES in Sudbury. His parents are William & Harriet HEADGES who married in 1858 Halstead.

I believe Job's father William had at least 2 brother's, Henry and Walter.

Henry Gaskin married Sarah Wellings JQ 1866 West Ham and had the following recorded children

1. Walter mq 1871 Sudbury mmn Wellins
2. Louisa dq 1872 West Ham mmn Wellings
3. John mq 1874 West Ham mmn Wellings
4. RUTH sq 1875 West Ham mmn Wellings
5.Alice sq 1877 North Witchford mmn Wellens
6. Mark mq 1880 Guiltcross mmn Wellings.

Ruth can be found in 1881 census ref rg11 1729 7a 16.
Hawker's caravan

Henry 42, Louisa (Sarah?) 36, Louis 10, John 14, Henry 12, George 8, Ruth 6,Mark 4 (4months)
All born Leytonstone

1891 census RG12 1401 77 20

George Gaskin 18  Hawker
Ruth Gaskin  17
Mark Gaskin 11

On the image of this census page is also William Gaskin with son Job(20=c1871)

The only conclusive way of being sure if this is Ruth's parent's ie Henry/Sarah is to purchase birth certificate to ascertain a date of birth. Must confess travelling people are hard to track.

John

Thank you for this John. I have just had my mum confirm Ruth’s sisters name was Louisa, so it looks like we are on the right track.

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Bentley, so pleased your mum knew Ruth had a sister called Louisa. That being the case she married George Arthur Baldwin

Marriages Sep 1894 
Baldwin    George Arthur    Sudbury    4a   1107   
Brown    William        Sudbury    4a   1107    
Gaskin    Louisa        Sudbury    4a   1107    
Ince    Fanny                Sudbury    4a   1107    

Here they are in 1911, Louisa's birthplace is spot re 1881 census.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GN-MNT

Henry & Sarah had another son Job

GASKIN, JOB       mmn WELLINGS 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in CAMBRIDGE  Volume 03B  Page 490

Henry a widow plus sons john & Job here on 1901 census. This gives us an idea of roughly Henry's age and birthplace

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVQ-18J

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Think we can take this back further now.

1871 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFXW-28B

This shows Henry has a sister Alice aged 22.

We then have this marriage

First name(s)   Henry
Last name   Gooskin
Residence   St Leonards
Marriage year   1841
Marriage date   25 Dec 1841
Place   Colchester, St Leonard
County   Essex
Spouse's first name(s)   Ruth
Spouse's last name   Lamb
Spouse's marital status   S
Spouse's residence   St Leonards
Father's first name(s)   William
Father's last name   Gooskin
Father's occupation   Basket Maker
Spouse's father's first name(s)   Thomas
Spouse's father's last name   Lamb

The following children are all born Gaskin with mmn Lamb.
James  mq 1841 Witham
Sarah  mq 1842 Billericay
Mary Anne dq 1842 Halstead
James jq 1844 Maldon
Thomas dq 1845 Halstead
Henry jq 1846 Samford

Alice mq 1850 Bosmere (may have been one of twins as 2 gro records with same ref)
George mq 1852 Witham
John dq 1854 Cosford
Louisa sq 1857 Epping Union
Mark jq 1862 Sudbury

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Henry & Ruth in 1871 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNH-78Z

Laura is probably Louisa.

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Henry & Ruth in 1871 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNH-78Z

Laura is probably Louisa.

John

Thank you so much John! My mum is over the moon with the information you’ve been able to find. She’s been thinking about doing this for years. Can’t wait to show her.

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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 19:03 GMT (UK) »
1891 census
RG12; Piece: 1439; Folio: 82; Page: 5;

Henry Gaskin   46
Sarah Gaskin   52
Henry Gaskin   24
Louisa Gaskin   19
Polly Gaskin   9
Job Gaskin   5

Death of Henry Senior

Deaths Sep 1886 
Gaskin    Henry    aged 68    Sudbury    4a   359

Death of Ruth nee Lamb

Deaths Jun 1909 
GASKIN    Ruth    aged 90    Sudbury    4a   440

Death of Henry son of Henry & Ruth, the father of your Ruth re original post

Deaths Dec 1927 
GASKIN    Henry   aged  81    Sudbury    4a   887



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Re: Gaskin family - Sudbury
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 10 November 20 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Death of Ruth's mother

Deaths Mar 1894   
Gaskin    Sarah    aged 60    Forehoe    4b   161


Re-marriage of Henry(1846)

Marriages Sep 1901   

GASKIN    Henry        Sudbury    4a   1563   
WARD    Harriett Ann    Sudbury    4a   1563

1911 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GN-QZH

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