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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 November 20 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Emma's family are a mess

She's on 1861 in this family group in Dittisham

Mary Jane Crook    29
Mary Ellen Crook    5
Susanna Crook    3
Emma L Crook    1
Mary Ann Silly    56 - boarder
Ellen Silly    13 - niece
Eliza Ann Silly    8 - niece
Mary Jane Silly    6 - niece
Emma Silly    3 - niece

Ellen is definitely Mary Ann's daughter - there's a baptism for her, daughter of William and Mary Ann.  Her birth is registered with mmn Hutchings, which fits earlier censuses for Mary Ann as there are Hutchings relatives in the household

I think Mary Jane Crook is also Mary Ann's daughter -  there's a Mary Jane Seally marrying William Crook in 1853 and she's the right age for Mary Ann's daughter from 1851

I am struggling with births of the other Silly girls.  Niece would suggest child of one of Mary Ann's siblings, and all of those at home in 1851 were female


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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 November 20 22:49 GMT (UK) »


Responded did you get my PM?

Have sent op a pm.

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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 20 22:56 GMT (UK) »


Yes emmas family is a mess lol  Mary Ann Hutchings did marry a William Silly - name change again

Emmas siblings info I have:  Hannah Elizabeth Seally
18711871
BIRTH 05 MAR 1871 Dittisham, Devon also Totnes Dist. Devon, Apr qtr, vol 5b, p 183

Eliza Ann Seally
18521937
BIRTH 25 AUG 1852 60 Lower Union St, Torquay, Devon

Mary Jane Ellis Seally
18541911
BIRTH JULY 1854 Dittisham, Devon, alsoTotnes dist. Jul qtr, vol 5b, p 163

Ann Elizabeth Seally
18571861
BIRTH ABT. 1857 Dittisham, Devon

William Robert Ellis Seally
18621866
BIRTH ABT. 1862 Dittisham, Devon
DEATH 07 AUG 1866 Dittisham, Devon (Bev) also Totnes dist. Jul qtr, vol 5b, p 143

John Henry Seally
18651866
BIRTH 20 JUN 1865 Dittisham, Devon
DEATH ABT. 1866 aged 1 in Totnes, Devon Sep qtr 5b 143

Robert Henry Seally was around 1859 but dont have much info on him yet

I think I put in the GRO various spellings to find the registrations, silley was used a fair bit

Emma's family are a mess

She's on 1861 in this family group in Dittisham

Mary Jane Crook    29
Mary Ellen Crook    5
Susanna Crook    3
Emma L Crook    1
Mary Ann Silly    56 - boarder
Ellen Silly    13 - niece
Eliza Ann Silly    8 - niece
Mary Jane Silly    6 - niece
Emma Silly    3 - niece

Ellen is definitely Mary Ann's daughter - there's a baptism for her, daughter of William and Mary Ann.  Her birth is registered with mmn Hutchings, which fits earlier censuses for Mary Ann as there are Hutchings relatives in the household

I think Mary Jane Crook is also Mary Ann's daughter -  there's a Mary Jane Seally marrying William Crook in 1853 and she's the right age for Mary Ann's daughter from 1851

I am struggling with births of the other Silly girls.  Niece would suggest child of one of Mary Ann's siblings, and all of those at home in 1851 were female


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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Is this the John W Collings the witness,

COLLINGS, JOHN  WAKEHAM     mmn LUSCOMBE 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 149

So probably Samuel's brother.

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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:06 GMT (UK) »
If this is so, does this mean Samuel luscombe was born under a different father?

Is this the John W Collings the witness,

COLLINGS, JOHN  WAKEHAM     mmn LUSCOMBE 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 149

So probably Samuel's brother.

John

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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Sent you another pm

If this is so, does this mean Samuel luscombe was born under a different father?

Is this the John W Collings the witness,

COLLINGS, JOHN  WAKEHAM     mmn LUSCOMBE 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 149

So probably Samuel's brother.

John

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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:12 GMT (UK) »
1861 census for John Wakeham Collings#

Name   Age
Samuel Collings   31
Sarah Collings   32
George Lascombe Collings   13
Samuel Collings   9
John W Collings   7
Anna Collings   3
Honor Collings   5/12
Samuel Collings   81


Is this the John W Collings the witness,

COLLINGS, JOHN  WAKEHAM     mmn LUSCOMBE 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 149

So probably Samuel's brother.

John

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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:19 GMT (UK) »
This is  RObert's Henry's death

SILLY, ROBERT  HENRY      
Age 1 
Q1   1861  TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 137

I think the family relationships may be a bit loose, or they didn;t go in for registering all the births. I'm struggling with the two younger Crook girls as well


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Re: Samuel Luscombe 1851/52 - stoke gabriel
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 November 20 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this.  Which two are you struggling with, Ill see if I saved the birth registrations I found?

This is  RObert's Henry's death

SILLY, ROBERT  HENRY      
Age 1 
Q1   1861  TOTNES  Volume 05B  Page 137

I think the family relationships may be a bit loose, or they didn;t go in for registering all the births. I'm struggling with the two younger Crook girls as well