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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 November 20 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Ann Davidson passed 1889, age 58, Old Machar

Husband, Ronald Davidson, Tailor's Cutter

Parents Robert Skinner, Crofter,   & Ann (MS Taylor)

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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 20 11:47 GMT (UK) »
As a matter of interest, John Skinner & Jane/Jean had a total of 9 children between 1785 & 1797, all born in Huntly.

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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 November 20 12:11 GMT (UK) »
The Skinner Graves, Old Meldrum & Skene

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184420247/alexander-skinner

The birth dates don't agree with what we have found so far.

Alexander's sons, Old Meldrum

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200499350/alexander-skinner

John & Jean's  at Drumblade

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149418916/john-skinner

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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 November 20 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Skinner born in Kinnellar 1832 married Ronald Davidson 1 Jan 1852 (my gt Grandfather ) No point in expecting her marriage record to give the names of her parents, then, even if you could find it, as it's before 1855.

I would like to know who her parents were.
Margaret Ann Skinner or Davidson, aged 58, died in Aberdeen in 1889. Her death certificate should tell you who her parents were.

Ranald Davidson, aged 85, died in Aberdeen in 1912. His death certificate should tell you the names of his parents.

I see from the 1881 census that Ranald was born in Kirkmichael, Banffshire. There's a Catholic baptism in 1827 of Ronald, son of Peter Davidson and Isabel McGrigor. Tomintoul is in the parish of Kirkmichael, Banffshire.

There are also Catholic baptisms of several children of Ronald Davidson and Margaret Skinner in 'Blairs with Scalan':
George, born 26 July 1852
Ronald, born 24 January 1855
Isabella Anna, born 21 July 1860
Margaret, born 1 April 1862
Hector McLean, born 30 June 1864
Mary Jane, born 23 December 1867

Scalan is just over the hill from Tomintoul. It was a clandestine seminary for training Catholic priests during the 18th century. See https://www.scalan.net/

The laws against Catholicism were relaxed at the end of the 18th century, and the seminary moved to Blairs. See https://www.blairsmuseum.com/College/history-college.htm

This all makes absolute sense because the children were born in Peterculter and Banchory-Devenick, close to Blairs.

I recommend getting the 1855 birth certificate because it will contain a lot of extra information that is not included in birth certificates in any other year.
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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 November 20 12:44 GMT (UK) »
I have just realised that the 1841 census transcription I first looked at has transcribed the place as Tartoniehouse, Kennethmont, Aberdeenshire

FreeCEN has it as Tartowie House, Kinellar. This is, quite clearly, what the original says.

Kennethmont and Kinellar are about 25 miles apart.

I have sent in a firmly worded error report, as I wonder how many more households in Kinellar have been wrongly transcribed as in Kennethmont.

The moral of the story: never trust anything you find online unless it's an image of an original document, and even then be wary.

And when you find a census transcription, always view the original to ensure that any errors are your own and not those of some clot who has not done their job properly.

See https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8210
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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 November 20 13:02 GMT (UK) »
I think it is now spelt Tertowie House. It was virtually destroyed by fire in 2011.

Robert Skinner on his grave was crofter on Southside of Tartowie.

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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 November 20 13:12 GMT (UK) »
John Skinner, born 30 Dec 1754, Gartly, son of James Skinner & Jean Ingram, who were married in Gartly, 29 Apr 1742.

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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 08 November 20 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I think it is now spelt Tertowie House. It was virtually destroyed by fire in 2011.
Yes, it's now Tertowie.

One wing of the house was destroyed by fire in 2011, after the house had been abandoned in about 2005. However this house was built in 1867 (a reworking of an older building), so Robert Skinner and family could not have lived in it.

There are three households recorded in Tartowie House in the 1841 census. The first householder listed is an Alexander Ewing of independent means, with a wife, son and eight servants, so it would be reasonable to suppose that this family were tenants (the proprietor being Major King) in the main house (before its rebuilding a quarter of a century later) and the others, both described as farmers, were tenants of farms close by.
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Re: Margaret Skinner of Kinnellar 1832
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 08 November 20 13:26 GMT (UK) »
John Skinner, born 30 Dec 1754, Gartly, son of James Skinner & Jean Ingram, who were married in Gartly, 29 Apr 1742.
If the origins of the family were in Huntly/Gartly/Forgue, why are the family graves in Skene/Old Meldrum?

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